[Dixielandjazz] That's all

Stan Brager sbrager at socal.rr.com
Sun Apr 15 11:55:00 PDT 2007


Craig;

According to what you say, OKOM or MKOM can best be considered IDMAT as
defined by Duke Ellington when he wrote "It Don't Mean A Thing (If You Ain't
Got That Swing)".

Stan
Stan Brager
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig I. Johnson" <civanj at roadrunner.com>
To: "Bill Haesler" <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] That's all


> Let's not start another silly discussion of what is OKOM. Boundaries
> and categories just don't seem important to me. OKOM is a collection
> of various MKOMs of readers of this list. Steve Barbone's intersect
> mine to a great degree, of is more "advanced" jazz boundaries and
> don't relate to many of the bop and post bop examples, yet mine extend
> probably
> further back and into areas like Hanshaw. I could care less if she is
> considered
> a jazz singer or not because my taste includes not jazz singers who sing
> some of the pop tunes I want to hear or they (as she) sang with groups
> mostl Jazz-ish that I want to hear. The important fact is that the
> intersection
> of my and other folks tastes DO greatly intersect and that is what this
> list is
> all about. Categorizing jazz or non-jazz is a waste of time as different
> folks
> have different views of it and call ing something OKOM or not OKOM
> is useless as the different MKOMS that make it up vary.
>
> Craig Johnson
> (just trying to keep us from going into another long and delete-able
> sequence trying to put things in little boxes and arguing over it.)
> Taxonomy - to me is about as interesting or welcome as taxes.)
>
>
>
> Bill Haesler wrote:
>
> > List-Message-Recipient: civanj at roadrunner.com
> >
> >> Annette Hanshaw can hardly be described as OKOM. It's because of the
> >> sometimes jazz accompaniments that she's known to us, e.g. "The
> >> Redheads" (Nichols, Mole, Dorsey), "The Four Instrumental Stars"
> >> (Rollini, Venuti, Lang, Berton). She often sang together with the
> >> Dorsey Brothers. There was also a session with Mannie Klein and Benny
> >> Goodman.
> >
> >
> >> Annette was herself a vaudeville and cabaret artiste.
> >
> >
> > Dear Bob,
> > Thats good enough for me and MKOM.
> > 8>)
> > Coincidentally, while on the subject of Ms Hanshaw who allegedly made
> > he first record at age 16 (born 1910), the other day I received an mp3
> > (which won't download properly) of her test recording for Pathe made
> > on 28 July 1926. A medley of popular songs of the time.
> > Do you, or any of our knowledgeable DJMLers know if this has been
> > issued anywhere on CD/LP?
> > So far as the '16-year-old' claim is concerned it now seems that she
> > was born in 1910 (which explains the maturity of her 'untrained'
> > voice) as confirmed by her birth certificate recently located by her
> > nephew, Frank W. Hanshaw III,.
> > "That's All".
> > Kind regards,
> > Bill
> >
> >
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