[Dixielandjazz] Dixielandjazz Digest, Vol 52, Issue 3
Bob Romans
cellblk7 at comcast.net
Mon Apr 2 12:57:56 PDT 2007
Arab Strut was written by clarinetist Roy Giomi, don't know the date, but it
was while he was playing in The Bay City Jazz Band! He played clarinet with
my band at the Sacramento Memorial Day Jazz Festival several years ago. It's
a great tune, and Cell Block 7 recorded it on our cd called "HARD TIME"...he
played the hell out of it, although on our recording, Emmett O'Sullivan did
the honors!
Warm regards,
Bob Romans,
1617 Lakeshore Dr.,
Lodi, Calif. 95242
Ph 209-747-1148
www.cellblockseven2002.net
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> 1. DJML --> DLDJ ?? (d.sleeman)
> 2. R.I.P. Jackie Coon (Marty Nichols)
> 3. Re: More Jazz Musicians who carried Guns.
> (Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis)
> 4. Re: More Jazz Musicians who carried Guns. (Don Ingle)
> 5. ARAB STRUT (Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis)
> 6. What's a "32-20"? (was More Jazz Musicians who carried Guns.)
> (Robert Smith)
> 7. Re: More Jazz Musicians who carried Guns. (Stan Brager)
> 8. Re: ARAB STRUT (Ron Wheeler)
> 9. Re: What's a "32-20"? (was More Jazz Musicians whocarried
> Guns.) (Bill Allen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 13:27:28 +0200
> From: "d.sleeman" <d.sleeman at hccnet.nl>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] DJML --> DLDJ ??
> To: "Discussion list for dixieland jazz"
> <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Discussion list for dixieland jazz
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janie McCue Lynch" <janie39 at socal.rr.com>
> To: "Dick Sleeman" <d.sleeman at hccnet.nl>
> Cc: "Discussion list for dixieland jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:26 AM
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] HEADERS on DJML POSTS
>
>> Has the site been changed so that the name of each addressee appears as a
>> separate entry, besides the DJML, on each post?
>
> Almost one week since the mutation of the Dixieland Jazz Mailing List. I
> can live with it though, after having changed some of the settings of my
> email program.
>
> BUT THAT NAME!!!
>
> Do they really want to change DJML into DLDJ ??
>
> Dick Sleeman
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 06:43:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Marty Nichols <marnichols at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] R.I.P. Jackie Coon
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Cc: Discussion list for dixieland jazz
> <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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> I only had one opportunity to hear and see Jackie Coon, but it was indeed
> memorable.
>
> At the 1999 Sacramento Festival I ran into my old Chicago friend Chuck
> Hedges and Chuck told my son John and I to be sure to catch him later when
> he would be playing with Jackie Coon, Russ Phillips, Eddie Higgins, etc.
> etc. in one of the more intimate venues. It was super!!!
>
> I'll never forget that session, and have it on DAT. When Russ Phillips
> played "The Touch Of Your Lips", he gave it his "all" and it was really an
> outstanding 2 or maybe 3 choruses, and when he was through with his
> choruses, there was much applause and Jackie exclaimed over the mike: "He
> didn't leave anything for me" in a pouting
> sort of way. Many of us laughed. Then , I think it was after Eddie
> Higgin's piano solo, they changed key and Jackie took his solo. It was
> really great entertainment!
> Marty Nichols
> http://myspace.com/freemarty
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:35:13 -0500
> From: "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis"
> <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] More Jazz Musicians who carried Guns.
> To: <dingle at nomadinter.net>
> Cc: Discussion list for dixieland jazz
> <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <004301c7753c$82209750$4cf5b844 at COMPACSR1320NX>
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> As my dad was growing up in a small town in central Missouri the whole
> family went everywhere armed. That included my grandfathers third wife
> who
> carried two 38's. (What a man, he wore out three) These short barrel
> hammerless S&W 38's are highly concealable
>
> My dad carried a 38 smith and Wesson hammerless everyday to school. In
> the
> period of time between the first world war and the 1930's there was very
> little law in small towns. My grandfather was a merchant owning a garage,
> three stores, a bottling and ice cream works. In that time people
> depended
> on credit to live from the merchants and ran bills. There were no
> collection agencies and if a merchant wanted to be paid, people had to
> know
> that he might come after them. Unfortunately people had a very low
> opinion
> of bankers and merchants at that time. This is why the gangsters like
> Bonnie and Clyde got away with what they did for so long. They had the
> protection of the people. The same with Jessie James. Times were a lot
> different.
>
> When my dad was in the 8th or 9th grade the thing went off in his pocket
> and
> the bullet went down his leg and came out his knee. The only one who ever
> shot anyone was one of my Uncles who shot a guy who came up behind my
> grand
> father with a piece of stove wood. The kids spread a rumor that he had
> shot
> his nuts off. Not true or I wouldn't be writing this right now if it
> were.
>
> My dad quit carrying a gun in 1927 when he came to St. Louis because it
> was
> safer in the big city. My how times have changed.
>
> But before anyone misses too many notes or plays out of tune around me I
> still own that 38.
> Larry Walton
> St. Louis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Ingle" <dingle at nomadinter.net>
> To: "Larry Walton" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> Cc: "Discussion list for dixieland jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] More Jazz Musicians who carried Guns.
>
>
>> Frank Trambauer carried a gun in his music briefcase, my dad related, in
>> the time both were working for Goldkwette. He was from Kansas City and
>> that was still almost a wild west town at the time he was entered the
>> business and was a rough town. Trumpeter George Rock carried a colt
>> frontier six shooter in the days when he was on Spike Jones' band same
>> time my dad was. As for that, dad and I carried shotguns in the car when
>> on the road in the fall, and on off days we would go quail and pheasant
>> hunting. The rest of the year we carried fly rods and fished every trout
>> stream we got a chance to. Made the road a bit less daunting.
>> Don (I gave up shooting clay pigeons because they're too hard to clean
>> and
>> taste like mud) Ingle
>>
>>
>> Steve Barbone wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> In his early years Bechet carried a gun frequently.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 12:33:51 -0400
> From: Don Ingle <dingle at nomadinter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] More Jazz Musicians who carried Guns.
> To: Mike <mike at railroadstjazzwest.com>
> Cc: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <4611306F.3040505 at nomadinter.net>
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>
> He was in several bands in the early days that were Kansas City area
> units, and he years later lived in KC and worked for the Civil
> Aeronautics Administration (today's FAA) and was a pilot for many yeara,
> as was my dad. He had an early connection with Kansas City before
> striking on his own and then to Goldkette and Whiteman.
> He recruited my dad to go to work for the CAA as an instructor just
> before the was started, when dad had left Weems in California. Dad
> worked at Santa Monica CAA office first then Washington D.C., then left
> CAA to take air force commission doing the same type of work but flunked
> the final eye exam. At 38 he was just old enough to be dropped from the
> draft with the eyes as well, so he joined Spike Jones (1943), and was on
> the first ever USO tour of France after D-Day with that band.
> I met Trambauer once when I was sitting in with Red Nichols at Lyman's
> in LA. Red was my mentor and first teacher, and Red asked Tram if he
> knew who that young "kid" playing with the band was. When he told him,
> Tram came up to tell me how much he remembered dad from the Detroit
> days, It was a moment well etched in Memories (I was 20 so it had to be
> '51.)
> Tram's son was with the Kansas City Symphony and a top rate professional
> player -- trumpet I seem to recall.
> Another player of the Bix-Tram period knocked on the door one day asking
> to see Red. I called dad to meet the visitor, and got the surprise of my
> life. It was Itzie Riskin, fine piano man from both Goldkette and
> Whiteman days and recorded with Bix as well. He had moved fromt he east
> to take a job as a vocal coach with MGM and heard that dad lived in the
> Valley and looked him up. This teen Bixophile sat dropped-jawed as
> Riskin and my dad spun tales of their shared past. It was something a
> then 15-year old also remembers well. Over the years I've added
> meetings with Paul Mertz, Chauncy Morehouse, Bill Rank, Spiegle Willcox,
> and others from the Detroit and Whiteman bands. One lucky guy in the
> right place, with the right fatherly connections, and a lot of things to
> remember as thoughts are triggered here on the list.
>
>
> Mike wrote:
>> I thought Tram was from Carbondale......Never knew he was a KC man...
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Don Ingle wrote:
>>> Frank Trambauer carried a gun in his music briefcase, my dad related,
>>> in the time both were working for Goldkwette. He was from Kansas
>>> City and that was still almost a wild west town at the time he was
>>> entered the business and was a rough town. Trumpeter George Rock
>>> carried a colt frontier six shooter in the days when he was on Spike
>>> Jones' band same time my dad was. As for that, dad and I carried
>>> shotguns in the car when on the road in the fall, and on off days we
>>> would go quail and pheasant hunting. The rest of the year we carried
>>> fly rods and fished every trout stream we got a chance to. Made the
>>> road a bit less daunting.
>>> Don (I gave up shooting clay pigeons because they're too hard to
>>> clean and taste like mud) Ingle
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Barbone wrote:
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dixielandjazz mailing list
>>> Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
>>> http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 12:28:27 -0500
> From: "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis"
> <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] ARAB STRUT
> To: "1-DIXIELAND JAZZ POST" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Discussion list for dixieland jazz
> <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <003301c7754c$545417b0$4cf5b844 at COMPACSR1320NX>
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> In a couple of weeks we will be doing a concert at the Scott Joplin House
> here in St. Louis and will be doing the Arab Strut.
>
> I need to know composer and year written (program notes) - so far I don't
> have much except that it came out of a band in the middle 50's - The Bay
> City Jazz Band
>
> By the way here is a rendition by some kids -
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36KXVahsg_s
> Larry Walton
> St. Louis
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:49:54 +0200
> From: "Robert Smith" <robert.smith at tele2.no>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] What's a "32-20"? (was More Jazz Musicians
> who carried Guns.)
> To: "Dixieland Jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Discussion list for dixieland jazz
> <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <006801c7754f$5299dd30$4bebd9c1 at RobertSPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Robert Johnson sings about a "32-20". I have a plea to all you gun
> experts:
> What's a 32-20?
>
> Incidently, my impression is that everybody in the US of A owns a gun, and
> will use it on the slightest provocation. This impression is gained from
> all
> the American TV programmes that are sent on Norwegian TV. It may well be a
> distortion of the truth.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob Smith
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:52:31 -0700
> From: "Stan Brager" <sbrager at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] More Jazz Musicians who carried Guns.
> To: "Mike" <mike at railroadstjazzwest.com>
> Cc: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <002201c7754f$b39b6400$6501a8c0 at jazzman>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Tram was born in Cabondale and died in Kansas City.
>
> Stan
> Stan Brager
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <mike at railroadstjazzwest.com>
> Cc: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] More Jazz Musicians who carried Guns.
>
>
>> I thought Tram was from Carbondale......Never knew he was a KC
>> man...
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Don Ingle wrote:
>> > Frank Trambauer carried a gun in his music briefcase, my dad related,
>> > in
>> > the time both were working for Goldkwette. He was from Kansas City and
>> > that was still almost a wild west town at the time he was entered the
>> > business and was a rough town. Trumpeter George Rock carried a colt
>> > frontier six shooter in the days when he was on Spike Jones' band same
>> > time my dad was. As for that, dad and I carried shotguns in the car
>> > when
>> > on the road in the fall, and on off days we would go quail and pheasant
>> > hunting. The rest of the year we carried fly rods and fished every
>> > trout
>> > stream we got a chance to. Made the road a bit less daunting.
>> > Don (I gave up shooting clay pigeons because they're too hard to clean
>> > and taste like mud) Ingle
>> >
>> >
>> > Steve Barbone wrote:
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Dixielandjazz mailing list
>> > Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
>> > http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:23:46 -0400
> From: "Ron Wheeler" <ronald_wheeler at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] ARAB STRUT
> To: "'Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis'"
> <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> Cc: 'Discussion list for dixieland jazz'
> <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <000201c77554$10d44d40$6101a8c0 at 39227170001>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I've got a 1994 Good Time CD featuring [and titled] _The Bay City Jazz
> Band_
> featuring former list member Ev Farey playing 'Arab Strut' along with
> eleven
> other tunes. The liner notes credit "[Giomi-Burris] Contemporary
> Music-BMI'.
> Band member credits show a Roy Giomi on clarinet but no Burris. It's a
> great CD, recorded at Jenny Lind Hall in Oakland in March of 1956.
>
> Ron Wheeler
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Larry Walton
> Entertainment - St. Louis
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 13:28
> To: Ron Wheeler
> Cc: Discussion list for dixieland jazz
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] ARAB STRUT
>
>
> In a couple of weeks we will be doing a concert at the Scott Joplin House
> here in St. Louis and will be doing the Arab Strut.
>
> I need to know composer and year written (program notes) - so far I don't
> have much except that it came out of a band in the middle 50's - The Bay
> City Jazz Band
>
> By the way here is a rendition by some kids -
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36KXVahsg_s
> Larry Walton
> St. Louis
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 13:24:38 -0500
> From: "Bill Allen" <ballen at deltapathology.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] What's a "32-20"? (was More Jazz
> Musicians whocarried Guns.)
> To: "Robert Smith" <robert.smith at tele2.no>
> Cc: Discussion list for dixieland jazz
> <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <000601c77554$2d0fa090$47d4a8c0 at dpgdomain.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Well, we don't ALL own guns.
>
> A common joke around here is that in certain establishments, they check
> you
> for guns at the door - and if you don't have one, they loan you one.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Smith" <robert.smith at tele2.no>
> To: "Mr. Bill" <ballen at deltapathology.com>
> Cc: "Discussion list for dixieland jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:49 PM
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] What's a "32-20"? (was More Jazz Musicians
> whocarried Guns.)
>
>
>> Robert Johnson sings about a "32-20". I have a plea to all you gun
> experts:
>> What's a 32-20?
>>
>> Incidently, my impression is that everybody in the US of A owns a gun,
>> and
>> will use it on the slightest provocation. This impression is gained from
> all
>> the American TV programmes that are sent on Norwegian TV. It may well be
>> a
>> distortion of the truth.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Bob Smith
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dixielandjazz mailing list
>> Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
>> http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz
>>
>
>
>
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