[Dixielandjazz] Swinging?

[Stan Brager]

Russ;

Both you and Jim are correct. Jim is right in that "swing" refers to any
music which makes you want to dance, your feet to move, your fingers to snap
and so on. It's an emotional response to certain musical sounds. I find that
portions of Brahms 4th Symphony, the Hot Frogs Jumping Jazz Band, flamenco,
and klezmer have that very same effect on me.

You're right in that the "swing" of the swing bands such as Fletcher
Henderson, Benny Goodman, Count Basie, etc. is technically created by a
particular way of playing the music.

For whatever it's worth;

Stan
Stan Brager
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russ Guarino" <russg at redshift.com>
To: <jim at kashprod.com>
Cc: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Swinging?


> Technically, a "Swing" pulse is splitting a beat into three parts and
tying the
> first two parts together, followed by the third part.  They were playing
swing
> style for quite a few years before anyone figured out what was being done.
>
> When I was in high school playing in our dance band, we played swing all
the
> time but did not know what it really was.  The big band charts sound
really
> great using swing rhythm.
>
> I have an A. Shaw instruction book that discusses swing, but he did not
> understand the "3 split beat" concept and explained it as a tied  three
16th/
> one 16th figure, played in a relaxed fashion.
>
> To me, Trad "swings" but not in the  technical sense.  It is exciting and
fun.
> IMO if you put swing into trad, it sounds out of place.
>
> Russ Guarino
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Kashishian wrote:
>
> > >I like Trad and it definitely doesn't swing.
> > Larry
> > St. Louis
> >
> > I think you mentioned in your earlier post, Larry, that the definition
of
> > "swing" is a rather loose one, and it can mean different things to
different
> > people.
> >
> > I liken "swinging" to playing music that one's feet feel they must move
to.
> > So, therefore, trad swings, if you use my definition.
> >
> > Jim
> >
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