[Dixielandjazz] When is it not jazz?

Cees van den Heuvel heu at bart.nl
Thu Sep 21 15:16:16 PDT 2006

When it doesn'nt swing, there's no improvisation, there's
no interactivity, there's no creation on the spot, it's no jazz. Beautiful 
sounds or even music, but no jazz.

Recreations of written down jazz: no jazz, but sometimes
beautiful music, but still no jazz.


Cees van den Heuvel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Gates" <kwg28 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Dixieland Jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:54 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] When is it not jazz?

> A friend lent me the Smithsonian collection of classic jazz.  Or at least, 
> one of it's forms.
> Got up to side 11----The second track is 11 minutes of Cecil 
> Taylor---"Enter Evening".
> Now--I'm not going to attempt to define jazz---but certainly it must be 
> the sound of musical
> instruments (or voices) and rhythms---and important to many of us---that 
> do so
> in a manner that "swings".
> Better and more knowledgable "ears" than mine can make sense of various 
> "modal" forms and
> other "modern" constructs----and I have no problem understanding that 
> certainly those are
> bonafide
> forms of jazz.   But random sounds?  That is what it sounds like to my 
> "primitive" ears.
> Maybe "abstract interpretations of sound" is a category---but "jazz"---I 
> don't get it.
> Ken Gates (still striving to climb the evolutionary ladder)
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