[Dixielandjazz] euphonium

Bill Gunter jazzboard at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 8 14:32:15 PDT 2006


Thanks Mart . . .


That's an interesting explaination for the difference twixt conical and 
cylindrical bore instruments to help conceptualize the effect of such things 
on the sound of the instrument.

Most interesting . . .

Cheers,

Bill Gunter
jazzboard at hotmail.com


>From: "mmckay" <macjazz at se.rr.com>
>Reply-To: macjazz at se.rr.com
>To: <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
>CC: Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
>Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] euphonium
>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:14:00 -0400
>
>  Good job Rich. I was working on the concept of "sort of conical" and that
>handles it.
>
>The explanation I was always given was that the sound waves of the conical
>bore instruments "tumble and roll" and so blend in/blend together well.
>Trumpet and that side of the brasses have a tubular shape that tends to put
>much more edge on the sound waves (again, think of sound waves taking on a
>circular saw shape -- the analogy shape wise is on fair, but the concept is
>good) and so they cut through the other instruments rather than blend. 
>Ergo,
>trumpets in an orchestra or if you want the sound to cut through, cornets
>where you want more blend and homogony.
>
>That got me though various music classes in the past.
>
>Mart
>
>Martin D. McKay
>
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>
>Quoting Bill Gunter <jazzboard at hotmail.com>:
>
> > So . . .
> >
> > (1) What, precisely is a euphonium (does the word "conical" fit in
> > here anywhere)?
>AFAIK, The general consensus is Greek(or maybe Latin)"Euphos"=Beautiful
>"Phonium" =Sound  but that is not proven. The Euphonium is conical bore, as
>is the tuba and Cornet and Fluglehorn.
>The term Baritone Horn was interchangable in the US, but not other parts of
>the world and many US Euphonists have now been educated to know the
>diference ;-)  (Baritone, Tenor and Alto Horns tend to be less conical,
>leaning towards the trumpet family.) Double-Bell Euphoniums were supposed 
>to
>combine the two families with a Bb Euph conical and a Tenor Horn straight
>bore section, with some variation.
>
>Somewhere there is a chart with all the variations in brasswind names 
>around
>the world - I will try to find it later...
> >
> > (2) What is the plural of euphonium (probably depends on which grammar
> > rules you follow)?
>
>Euphonia, Euphoniums, a bunch of Euphonies, who the heck knows!
>
>Dave Richoux
>Not a stupid question at all!
>
>
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