[Dixielandjazz] Re: 10 Representative Dixieland Recordings -- List?

Sat Jul 8 19:39:09 PDT 2006

I agree with you Dave. When I played with Ernie with Gene Mayl's band he 
could swing harder than any lead player I had played with and I played 
with some good players. John Ulrich used to say that he was amazed at 
how Ernie could go from the two beat style and then turn in to a whole 
different player when he had a Condon rhythm section. On top of that 
Ernie has an incredible memory for hundreds of  tunes and I can't 
remember him never knowing anything that was called up. As you know when 
he lived in Atlanta he was on the hunt for some of the most unheard 
things along with Bill Rutan. Some of those tunes he dug up from the 
crypt were gems!

Jim Butler
Trombone (Retired thanks to embouchure dystonia
Upstate NY

Dave Hanson wrote:
> I don't see anyone mentioning the name of Ernie Carson.....I know many on this list personally don't like Ernie, but that shouldn't detract from the fact the he was/is one the best "hot" horn players in the last 35 or more years. Wild Bill also respected his work, as do I, and I've had MY problems with Ernie as well. George Buck has a couple dozen of his works, many outstanding, and with a wide variety of sidemen.
> He is certainly worth a mention.
>
> I'll stand back for the flaming !
>
> Dave Hanson
> Trombone
> Atlanta
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Dan Augustine 
>   To: DJML 
>   Cc: Frankenberg, Hank 
>   Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 5:29 PM
>   Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re: 10 Representative Dixieland Recordings -- List?
>
>
>   Luis and others--
>        So far, no.  In fact, while the comments and suggested artists 
>   and recordings have all been very interesting and helpful, nobody has 
>   actually provided a list of 10 CDs, let alone ranked them.
>        Admittedly, doing so would amount to standing alone in front of a 
>   crowd, with arms and legs stretched wide, saying, "OK, hit me." 
>   Takes a bit of courage, don't you know?
>        However, thus far here's what we got:
>
>   me (very tentatively):
>   Armstrong, Louis: Satchmo at Symphony Hall
>   Condon, Eddie: Eddie Condon: Dixieland All-Stars
>   Crosby, Bob: Bob Crosby & His Dixieland Bob Cats: 1939-42
>   Cullum, Jim: (something, maybe Chasin' the Blues (2005))
>   Dukes of Dixieland: The Best of The Dukes of Dixieland
>   Firehouse Five Plus Two: At Disneyland
>   Fountain, Pete: (something, maybe Best of Pete Fountain)
>   High Sierra Jazz Band: Jubilee
>   Murphy, Turk Jazz Band: Oz Turk Plus
>   Teagarden, Jack: At the Roundtable
>   (but i also agree that 'modern' -- say, after 1950 or so -- bands 
>   ought to get the heaviest emphasis; i would include these for 
>   starters: (New) Black Eagle JB, Bobby Hackett, Bob Schulz & His 
>   Frisco JB, Bob Scobey's Frisco JB, Boll Weevil Jass Band, Cornet Chop 
>   Suey, Dr. Michael White, Ed Polcer All-Stars, Independence Hall JB, 
>   Kenny Ball, Original Salty Dogs JB, Titan Hot 7, Uptown Lowdown JB, 
>   Vince Giordano's Nighthawks, Wilbur De Paris, Yerba Buena Stompers, 
>   Professor Plum, Climax JB)
>
>   Rae Ann:
>   "The Golden Age of Jazz."  It is a 4 CD set that includes 96 of the 
>   greatest original recordings.  Included are Louis, Bix, Jelly, Miff 
>   Mole, Tommy Lanier, Louis Prima, Bob Crosby, Wingy Manone, Red Allen, 
>   Zutty Singleton, Lu Watters, Sidney Bechet, Eddie Condon, DeParis 
>   Brothers, Bobby Hackett, Bunk Johnson, Wild Bill, Kid Ory, Turk, 
>   Edmund Hall, Muggsy Spanier, George Lewis, Red Nichols, and Jack 
>   Teagarden
>
>   Pat Cooke:
>   Louis, but select some of his later recordings with Trummy Young, 
>   Barret Deemss, and Peanuts Hucko and the later guys.  The Bobcats are 
>   good, so is Jim Cullum,  and Pete Fountain.  If you pick Jack 
>   Teagarden, pick something with Don Goldie on trumpet, or some of the 
>   Louis with Teagarden stuff.  And don't forget the original Assunto's 
>   Dukes of Dixieland with Jack Maheu on clarinet
>
>   Ginny:
>   3 CD set by Tex Wyndham and The Rent Party Revelers
>
>   Steve:
>   Randy Reinhart's latest: "As Long As I Live" (arbors)
>   The latest BobCats CD from list mate Ed Metz.
>   A Joe Hopkins CD.
>   A Blue Street CD
>
>   Rebecca:
>   "Sweet Little Papa" by Hal Smith's Creole Sunshine Jazz Band on
>   GHB label and "A Song for George Lewis" by Dr. Michael White.  Finally,
>   anything by Buck Creek JB, Grand Dominion JB, or Climax JB
>
>   Mike M:
>   High Sierra Jazz Band and
>   The 51st Eight.
>
>   Louis:
>   Mortons, Hot 5s and 7s, Sam Morgans, Armand Piron
>
>   Mike V:
>   Ambassador Satch
>
>   Ross:
>   "Back In Time" by "The Dutch Swing College Jazz Band"
>
>   Mike C:
>   Muggsy Spanier's "The Great 16"  For more recent bands, the best I 
>   have heard is "Professor Plum's Jazz"
>
>   John:
>   Tiger Rag ODJB 1936 recording.
>   That's A Plenty - Wild Bill's Commodores
>   China Boy - Eddie Condon's 1944 Town Hall Concert with Krupa, Pee wee etc
>   Once In A While - Louis Hot Five
>   Snake Rag - King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band
>   Black Bottom Stomp - Jelly
>   Weary Blues - Bechet with Hodes on Blue Note
>   Bugle Call Rag - The Rhythmakers
>   Wild Man Blues - Louis Armstrong's Hot Seven
>   Maple Leaf Rag - Sidney Bechet's New Orleans Feetwarmers 1932
>   and that neglects the New Orleans Wanderers, The Ory band, Mutt 
>   Carey's New Yorkers, the Rudi Blesch This is Jazz line up  with Wild 
>   Bill and Baby Dodds
>
>   Tony:
>   Kid Shots Madison playing on When You & I Were Young Maggie
>   Percy Humphrey with George Lewis on At A Georgia Camp Meeting (At 
>   Dobell's Record Store)
>   Wooden Joe Nicholas on Shake It & Break It (At 4 in the morning in Wigan)
>   Loius Armstrong - a toss up between Potato Head and Wild Man Blus. 
>   The other year I heard Potato Head on a 78 played on a top line wind 
>   up gramophone - the sound presence was stupendous!
>   Bechet & Ladnier on Sweetie Dear
>   Henry "Red" Allen on the Luis Russell sides and his NY band. Pick 
>   almost any track.
>   I'm not sure about number 10. It used to be Mugsy on Big Butter & Egg 
>   Man, but then I heard Louis' version. It might even be Coeman Hawkins 
>   on Body and soul, but I also like Red Allen's version.
>   I also love the Kid Ory stuff and a lot of the Wild Bill
>
>        Dan
>   -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   >From: "Dr. luis daniel flores" <ldf1950 at arnet.com.ar>
>   >To: "John Petters" <johnpetters at tiscali.co.uk>,
>   > "Steve Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
>   >Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] 10 Representative Dixieland Recordings
>   >Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 17:46:59 -0300
>   >Cc: DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>,
>   > Louis Lince <louislince at neworleansmusic.demon.co.uk>
>   >
>   >Is there anyone doing a ranking of the best 10?
>   >Luis
>   >Dr. Luis Daniel Flores FRCOG
>   >www.jazzysentimientos.com.ar
>   >domingos/Sundays 9:30/12:30 GMT
>
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