[Dixielandjazz] Post-Genre Music?

[EDWIN COLTRIN]

Tom I take exception to your describing "Hep Cats" as to Mister Rogers, Andy Williams.
   
  I think in the late 30's and early 40's there was a cartoon character who would be the epitome of "Hep Cat", he was depicted with a large brimmed hat, peg pants with wide knees, a long gold chain, long drape jacket but can't remember his shoes. This was a gross characterization of the dress of several ethnic groups. The so-called fad of the Ducks A** haircut so prominent in the 50's was truly a hairdo from the pre-war 40's, taken from the "Pachuco". "Hep Cat"  being an expression common in the 30's and 40's. Lyrics from a Cab Calloway tune, that era, "are you hep to the jive?".  If I remember Cab's stage clothes of that time were similar 
   
  In 1940/41, I sported a similar dress and hairdo, when I had hair, less the wide brimmed hat and gold chain. I was "Hep to the Jive". I was into Swing and OKOM, a definite loner at high school with all the girls drooling over Frank.
   
  Slainte 
  A fabulous NEW YEAR  toall
   
  Ye Olde Mouldy Fygge
   
  Ed Coltrin 
   
      

tcashwigg at aol.com wrote:
  Nope ! does not lend itself well to Marketing, and if a newbie heard 
some MUSIC that they did not like and that was their only experience at 
say a live music event, they would probably turn away and not go to 
another one. :))

Would be the same situation of just calling it generic "BEER", the 
advertising industry would just lose far too much money and jobs, the 
newbies like to Discover things and cherish them as something they 
found all on their own without mom & dad forcing them to accept it.

Sort of like many of my generation took on Rock & Roll to get away from 
many of those so called Hep Cats who looked really funny to us at that 
age, not to mention how funny they dressed all trying to look like Mr. 
Rogers, or Andy Williams. :)) I guess Woody Allen is still trying to 
look like that.

Real Musicians and Successful entertainers have mostly tended to dress 
for success and that meant dress up better than your audiences if 
possible, or at least suitable to be in their company. I never saw 
Louis Armstrong without a suit, and also never saw John Lee Hooker 
without a Suit on, even working in his garden. Hey even Doctors put 
on Uniforms to identify them as Doctors and add to their respect, would 
you go into any hospital and let some guy who looked like a cabbie or 
plumber operate on you ? :)) I don't think so.

I say let's put some class back into the Music and on the stage and we 
will see some class come back to the audience, and maybe even start to 
attract an audience again. :)) There are a lot more of them than us 
folks, and J.C. Penny said the Customer is always Right, and I believe 
in that theory even if I know the customers is dead wrong, so what! 
he/she paid so we should do all we can within reason to make them happy 
and keep 'em coming back, there are of course a few exceptions to this 
as we have discussed on here before. :))

Leave them with a pleasing and good experience, "That is what they came 
for" unless of course they are throwing rotten veggies at you.!

Cheers,

Tom "Do it right and get the Hell out of Town with the Money" Wiggins

-----Original Message-----
From: DWSI at aol.com
To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Post-Genre Music?

All of the talk about getting the youth into OKOM seems to assume 
our
musical category is a sub category of the bigger category generally 
called
"jazz."
At Rutgers Unviersity, where I manage the adult education courses in 
writing,
(when I'm not playing ragtime piano), one teacher came up with a course 

called Post-Genre Poetry. In it, he assumes that poetry has moved 
beyond genres,

or types or categories of music, and now poets are more or less free 
agents.
As I think about it, isn't that what has happened to an awful lot of 
art
forms? We've heard of fusion, and cross-over, but what if there isn't 
any more
need for the traditional genres? What if it's just "music" from here 
on? Does
this work for anyone out there?

Dan (backup piano) Spink
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