[Dixielandjazz] Is Rap a New Jazz Genre?

Steven Holzer slholzer at iquest.net
Sat Dec 16 18:19:00 PST 2006


Rap is probably as much music as Gregorian chants are. The best rap 
probably has an improvised character in common with jazz. But no, I 
don't think rap is any part of the jazz tradition.

Steve Holzer

Ron Gable wrote:

>First they have to convince me it's music; then I'll ponder on the answer to 
>your question.
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Steve Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
>To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:43 AM
>Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Is Rap a New Jazz Genre?
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>Sometimes we can't see the forest for the trees. Below is excerpted from
>long article about why the Cuban "Establishment" hates rap. The reasons are
>eerily similar to why the US "Establishment" hated jazz a few generations
>ago. Hmmmmm.
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>Cheers,
>Steve Barbone
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>Cuba¹s Rap Vanguard Reaches Beyond the Party Line
>
>NY TIMES - By MARC LACEY - December 15, 2006
>
>HAVANA < In a country like Cuba, where the state has its hand in just about
>everything, it is perhaps not surprising that there is a governmental body
>that concerns itself with rap music.
>
>Alarmed by the number of young people in baggy clothing and ill-aligned
>baseball caps rapping around the island, the government created the Cuban
>Rap Agency four years ago to bring rebellious rhymers into the fold. . . .
>
>³Rap is a form of battle,² she (agency head Susana Garcia Amarosa) said.
>³It¹s a way of protesting for a section of the population. It has force.
>It¹s not just the beat < the boom, boom, boom < it¹s the lyrics.² . . .
>
>. . . artists whose rap does not veer too much from the party line qualify
>for the government aid. . .
>
>Only nine groups are working with the agency. Of the remaining 500 or more
>across the island, some voice discontent with Cuban society in language that
>is as blunt as the accompanying beat is loud. . .
>
>Aldo Rodríguez Baquero, 23, who teams up with his friend Bian Rodríguez Gala
>in a popular group called Los Aldeanos, or The Villagers. (said) ³We want
>liberty and freedom.² . . .
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