[Dixielandjazz] Musician vacations

Tue Apr 11 00:50:27 PDT 2006

Gifts, and or weapons of mass destruction, or possibly planters for 
musical museums flower displays :))

No Spreken de Deutch :))

For the US Bands that go abroad to tour, you can obtain forms from the 
Soc. Sec. office for most countries that will allow you to work there 
for no more than thirty days in succession and without any tax taken 
out.  Except for Holland where you must get a "TAX DEAL" by a guy who 
specializes in it and it costs about $350.00 for the entire band,  Yoiu 
do need however to do the paperwork showing that your expenses are 
equal to or exceed your payment fees for the gig.   Not hard to do if 
you have International airline tickets in hand.

Germany is getting a little tougher, because so many of the promoters 
there have yet to figure out how to get around the tax law using this 
method.   The language problem has an effect on it,  you need to know 
how to do it so you can teach the German Promoters how to do it, :))   
Their politicians and tax guys are just as greedy as everywhere else, 
just looking to pay their own salaries and justify their existence.   
Too bad they can't find a Real Job. :))

Cheers,

Tom Wiggins

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis <larrys.bands at charter.net>
To: Zenith @ ANS <zenith at ans.com.au>; dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:05:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Musician vacations

   How do you explain all those horns? 
 Larry 
 St. Louis 
 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zenith @ ANS" <zenith at ans.com.au> 
 To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com> 
 Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:14 PM 
 Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Musician vacations 

 > Hi List, 
 > 
  > Our experience after playing some 30 or so countries over the last 
15 or > so 
 > years, suggests that paperwork can usually be avoided by simply not 
  > mentioning you are a musician and going through customs separately. 
In > the 
  > cases where your passport actually says 'musician', if questioned, 
you are 
  > on holiday and/or "now retired" with "hobby" playing only. As far as 
the 
 > tax man is concerned even musicians are allowed to go on vacation. 
 > 
  > We always sign our UK declarations saying our fees never exceed our 
> airfares 
  > from Sydney. We usually try to visit more than one country and 
contra > total 
 > travel expenses against each country we visit if necessary. 
  > (Did I really give that hot tip out loud and for free too? - Hope 
Bob 
  > Ringwald does not have any taxmen/inland revenue people on this 
list) 
 > 
  > Any CDs can be labelled "not for sale" and/or "promotional 
material". We 
  > always travel with stacks of unassembled CDs on each musician 
without > jewel 
  > cases, artwork being located elsewhere and carried by another so the 
> product 
  > is not immediately saleable on one person. We have heard of a case 
in 
  > Germany where they confiscated CDs but they were returned again upon 
exit 
  > from the country. However I think my friend Bill Haesler would know 
this 
  > yarn better where one band member did a Hitler goose march/salute 
past the 
  > customs officers and this was the main reason for the Australian > 
contingent 
  > having a problem in Germany. We always pre-purchase a few hundred 
jewel 
  > cases in each country we visit although in Montreux Switzerland we 
sold > them 
  > for more money in 'back-up' slim plastic sleeves when we ran out. At 
the 
  > Portland Oregon Jazz Festival in USA we actually sold out of all the 
CDs > we 
  > carried that year (2002 I think). When entering/leaving USA, for 
example, 
  > we all split up and ignore each other when going through customs 
instead > of 
  > looking like a group or band. We also travel with a few partners who 
tend 
  > to make us look less conspicuous and more like seniors on vacation. 
So 
 > there you have it, one good advantage of being an older OKOM person. 
 > 
  > However, I do admit that the 9/11 new restrictions by the Dept of 
Homeland 
  > Insecurity, will make things a little more difficult for us in USA 
now. > If 
  > any agent/festival promoter will do a deal with us we can play for 
"free" 
  > (and/or expenses) but we would charge a one CD entrance price per 
person > to 
  > hear the band play. If engagement probabilities arise I would 
arrange to 
 > have the CDs produced locally. 
 > 
 > Playing in UK July/August - Advert coming out soon. 
 > Gospel service with Big Al Carson from New Orleans. 
 > Tom (blatantly looking for 2007 gigs in Europe/USA) Wood 
 > www.sydneyzenith.com 
 > 
 > 
 > -----Original Message----- 
 > From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com 
  > [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Robert 
S. 
 > Ringwald 
 > Sent: Saturday, 8 April 2006 8:29 AM 
 > To: DJML 
 > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Re: Problems for travelling musicians 
 > Larry Walton wrote: 
  >> You guys seem to think that no one can tour this country. Not 
true(snip) 
 > Larry, 
  > I don't think anyone said that no one could tour the country. I 
think > what 
  > was said was that the new restrictions by the Dept of homeland 
Insecurity, 
 > has made it much more difficult.--bob Ringwald 
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