[Dixielandjazz] Ashes

[Tom Duncan]

Larry got a running start on "Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary", but here is a
link with the "rest of the story"

http://www.rhymes.org.uk/mary_mary_quite_contrary.htm

Regards,

Tom Duncan 

-----Original Message-----
From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
[mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Larry Walton
Entertainment
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:48 PM
To: tcashwigg at aol.com; jim at kashprod.com; dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Ashes

Actually the poem is very old and dates to the middle ages.  The poem as to
do with the black death that killed a quarter of the population.

Ring around the rosies refers to the swelling and redness of the buboes and
boil like symptoms.
Pocket full of posies refers to the flowers that you put on a grave and to
the methods of preventing the disease.  People believed that it was airborne
and if you smelled good things you wouldn't get it.
All fall down, is what happens when the disease follows it's course.

Fun Huh?  There are others

Mary Mary (Mary Queen of Scott's called Bloody Mary) quite contrary (she
didn't get along with the English Queen) How does your garden grow? ( a
reference to the fertilizer buried there) With blue bells  (the young women
killed?) And Cockle shells ( their
lovers?)
and pretty girls all in a row.  (I'm not sure but I think this refers to a
cemetery)
I may not have the last exactly right but it's pretty close.  Maybe some or
our English friends can add something.

Larry Walton
St. Louis
----- Original Message -----
From: <tcashwigg at aol.com>
To: <jim at kashprod.com>; <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Ashes


> Easy Jim:
>
>
> musical content:
>
> Ring around the rosies
> pocket full of posies
> Ashes ashes all fall down !
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kashishian <jim at kashprod.com>
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Sent: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:37:55 +0200
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Ashes
>
>     The British news is going on & on about "The Ashes" which have been
> brought
> back to the U.K. after 18 yrs absence.  The cricket players run around
> holding up an urn.  I, in my ignorance to the sport, wonder if it
> really is
> someone's ashes?
>
> (no musical content, but at least not political...I hope!  If someone
> answers through DJML, you best try to spin this thread towards a musical
> angle.  Curious as to how that can be done!!!)
>
> Jim
>
>
> Anton wrote:
>
> An Aussie dirge:
>
> "Ashes to ashes
> and dust to dust,
> if the women don't get ya,
> the Pommies must"
>
>
>
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