[Dixielandjazz] Tempo markings
eholroyd at optushome.com.au
Sat Oct 22 01:44:28 PDT 2005
>From Eric Holroyd
PLEASE DON'T SEND ALL THIS EMAIL BACK TO ME WITH YOURS. THANKS.
> You have indeed opened a can of worms regarding the tempo of the times.
> My experience as a listener is that while the recorded tempo is often
> considered the "standard" for a tune, it is not always the same as how the
> band will play a tune in front of the public.
Could that be part of the point I was making?
ie if they're playing for a 'Party Animal / Festival Crowd' it'll be faster,
but if playing for knowledgeable cognoscenti they'd play it slower...
> Furthermore, musicians who have recorded a work several times will do it
> at a faster or slower tempo
> than their first recording. This is true for classical music as well as
And in both instances it may well be as a result of a direct 'request' from
the person footing the bill for a recording.
> What's important is whether or not the players are comfortable with the
> tempo which at which a tune is played.
Surely not ALL of those bands I heard at West Coast festivals with their 'el
furioso' tempos were comfortable with the tempos at which their leaders
kicked in a tune?
Unless you're Dizzy or Maynard it's not easy to construct a meaningful solo
at 220 clicks or so...
> Speaking of Lu Watters, there are 2 cuts each of "Big Bear Stomp",
> Norton's Hunch", "Annie Street Rock" and several others of his
> on the Good Time Jazz compilation of the complete Yerba Buena Jazz Band
> recordings. If I have time later, I'll listen and let you know if Lu held
> the tempii on both cuts of the same tune. Perhaps others who've heard Lu's
> band will chime in with their recollections.
I have the Good Time Jazz compllation of the YBJB recordings, as well as
many other LPs, CDs and cassettes so can listen again if I need to. But I
don't think I need to do that.
I stand by my contention that he and Turk played the music at a good dancing
tempo with plenty of soul.
I was never priveleged to have heard Lu's band live, but I heard Turk's band
quite a few times and always felt that he was one of the most 'true to the
music' guys I ever came across.
The wonderful Bay City Jazz Band with a young Ev Farey knew how to play a
good tempo too.
As does Bob Schulz and one or two others in the Bay Area and the San Joaquin
Best to all
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