[Dixielandjazz] Baritone as Trombone

[David Richoux]

Hi all,

I think just a bit of clarification on this - Trombones, Baritones &  
Euphoniums are usually pitched in Bb but Bass Clef trombone/Euphonium  
music is not transposed. (For USA usage, the name Baritone and  
Euphonium is often incorrectly interchanged -  there are  
differences.) There are Eb "Alto" bones, "Soprano" bone the same  
pitch as a Bb trumpet and even sopranino and piccolo trombones!     
Tubas are made in BBb, CC, Eb or F pitch but the music is not  
transposed.
There are some exceptions to this rule: for British Brass Band music  
and other special cases the music is  transposed and written in  
Treble Clef. Just to confuse things more, sometimes T-bone music is  
written in Tenor Clef but I have never seen an OKOM jazz chart done  
that way. I have seen many OKOM Bass charts written one octave higher  
than sounded - I guess this is a String Bass thing, but it also  
keeps  the notes closer in the staff.

One thing to watch out for if you pick up a "marching brass" middle  
instrument - there are Mellophones pitched in Eb, F (or sometimes  
both) that look much like marching Valve Trombones, marching  
Euphoniums or marching Baritones. I have a few antique mellophones  
that can be set to 5 or 6 different pitches with extra pipes or  
rotary position valves.  Lots of fun.

There are also  3 valved Drum & Bugle Corps middle horns pitched in G.

I am skipping a lot of other important details and historical  
trivia...  like the "modern" notation method of putting everything in  
C with accidentals - I hate that!

Dave Richoux

Some pretty good articles here  http:// 
encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/trombone
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/brass+instrument



On Nov 23, 2005, at 11:16 PM, Ministry of Jazz wrote:

> Speaking of keys and valve horns, yes, these horns read the same  
> music as
> the trombone IF you use the concert pitch fingerings. For us poor  
> souls who
> learned trumpet fingerings and try not to get confused when playing  
> the
> other horns, they need to be played in Bb and you can read trumpet  
> or treble
> clef baritone or valve bone music, which is usually written in Bb.