[Dixielandjazz] Re: Future nursing home patients
Patrick Cooke
amazingbass at cox.net
Tue May 10 13:35:28 PDT 2005
Steve wrote:
> Yeah, but especially scary in the audience. The >women will have huge
implant
>enlarged boobs and the men will be walking around with >Viagra erections.
>Yet, because of Alzheimer's, they will have forgotten >why.
Indeed, Steve; but the scariest will be all those tatooed grannies
with studs in their tongues.
Pat Cooke
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> 1. Re: Nursing home gigs (LARRY'S Signs and Large Format Printing)
> 2. Re: Nursing home gigs (TCASHWIGG at aol.com)
> 3. Re:playing for disabled people in faciilies (l.swain at comcast.net)
> 4. New twist on NIgerian Scam letters (TCASHWIGG at aol.com)
> 5. RE: Bringing dead piano greats up to scratch (John Farrell)
> 6. Photo of our clarinet/violin duo (Robert Smith)
> 7. RE: (Urban legend) Bringing dead piano greats up to scratch
> (Craig I. Johnson)
> 8. Re: Re:playing for disabled people in faciilies
> (rahberry at comcast.net)
> 9. "The Gig" (Bob Loomis)
> 10. Re: Nursing home gigs - (Steve barbone)
> 11. Teaching Jazz (Steve barbone)
> 12. Re: "The Gig" (Coastsidegiraffe at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 22:45:34 -0500
> From: "LARRY'S Signs and Large Format Printing" <sign.guy at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Nursing home gigs
> To: <nvickers1 at cox.net>, <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Cc: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <003701c55512$b9329780$d4e0d918 at gateway2000>
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> I did a nursing home gig today that was a 50's review. Two of the old
> ladies setting in the front row were doing hand jive that was popular in
> the 50's. Somehow I don't think that sort of thing will happen in 40 or
> so
> years to def leopard or some heavy metal band. Picture a rap group doing
> a
> nursing home in 50 years.....scary
> Larry Walton
> St. Louis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <nvickers1 at cox.net>
> To: <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Cc: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 3:22 PM
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Nursing home gigs
>
>
>> Steve Barbone wrote:
>>
>> An elderly gentleman had not uttered a word for several years, so the
> chief
>> nurse told me. He just sat and stared. We play familiar tunes at these
>> events and started on "My Blue Heaven". Somehow that made a connection
>> and
>> the old guy started to sing it. He sang it perfectly.
>>
>> Very moving experience. The more of them we play, the more we find out
> that
>> music makes a connection to these people, when mere words or actions.
>>
>> Vickers' response:
>>
>> I have seen this myself a few times. But first an anecdote from medical
> school days. Professor of neuroanatomy was talking about disabled and
> elderly Englishmen who had been moved to the countryside to escape to
> London
> blitz. One person had a stroke and hadn't spoken in months. When the
> German bombers flew over their village on the way to London, the man
> raised
> his cane and uttered a string of cursewords to the sky.
>>
>> The hospital in which I practiced had a nursing home attached. One
> morning a week the chaplain, himself an amateur musician, would assemble
> some of the patients for a "memories" session which would include music.
> One elderly woman was sitting in the wheelchair with eyes closed. Hadn't
> spoken or looked around the entire time that I'd observed her. They sang
> "Take me out to the Ballgame." The woman opened her eyes, sang all the
> words.
>> When it was over, the slumped over and closed her eyes as before. To my
> knowledge, she never spoke again.
>>
>> Simple, layman's explanation of this-- some imbedded memories are in a
> different part of the brain.
>>
>> Thanks for listening.
>>
>> Norman Vickers
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 00:18:38 EDT
> From: TCASHWIGG at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Nursing home gigs
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <ac.72edf1c5.2fb1901e at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> In a message dated 5/9/05 8:41:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> sign.guy at charter.net writes:
>
>>
>> I did a nursing home gig today that was a 50's review. Two of the old
>> ladies setting in the front row were doing hand jive that was popular in
>> the 50's. Somehow I don't think that sort of thing will happen in 40 or
>> so
>> years to def leopard or some heavy metal band. Picture a rap group doing
>> a
>> nursing home in 50 years.....scary
>> Larry Walton
>> St. Louis
>>
>
> HI Larry:
>
> I don't think that is a problem, the life expectancy rate of Rappers is
> not
> very long :))
> Or so it has been in the past ten years or so anyway.
>
> Now granted they might be playing some retirement homes inside Prison
> Walls.
> :)
> Cheers,
>
> Tom Wiggins
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 00:21:25 -0400
> From: l.swain at comcast.net
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re:playing for disabled people in faciilies
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <427FFE85.16548.6B63D37 at localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On 10 May 2005 at 3:16, dixielandjazz-request at ml.islandnet.com wrote:
>
>>
>> The hospital in which I practiced had a nursing home attached. One
>> morning a
>> week the chaplain, himself an amateur musician, would assemble
> some of the
>> patients for a "memories" session which would include music. One
> elderly woman
>> was sitting in the wheelchair with eyes closed. Hadn't spoken or
> looked around
>> the entire time that I'd observed her. They sang "Take me out to
> the Ballgame."
>> The woman opened her eyes, sang all the words. When it was over,
> the slumped
>> over and closed her eyes as before. To my knowledge, she never
> spoke again.
>>
>> Simple, layman's explanation of this-- some imbedded memories are
> in a different
>> part of the brain.
>
> I worked a gig with Larry Zuk in the Boston area (he on string
> bass, me on piano) last year where we played and sangodest fee) at
> a facility for brain-damaged residents, and I was profoundly moved
> to see that many of the residents who were there were mouthing the
> words (precisely) to many of the old standards we played.
>
> Afterwards, many came up to us to thank us and give each of us an
> enthusiastic hug for what we had done.
>
> When can I go back?
>
>
>
> Laurence Swain
> l.swain at comcast.net
> 617 (571) 7885
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 00:34:24 EDT
> From: TCASHWIGG at aol.com
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] New twist on NIgerian Scam letters
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <8c.26a299d5.2fb193d0 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> Attention all list mates:
>
> If anyone gets any letters like this be very careful, the Nigerian Scam
> Letter boys have started targeting musicians and bands for some reason
> lately.
>
> It is obviously written in broken incorrect English and was sent to a
> friend
> of mine Downunder, who passed it on to me. Now why would this guy be
> looking
> to book a relatively unknown band from downunder to fly to Florida and
> play
> what appears to be a party, and on such short notice as well.
>
> Be careful and under no circumstance fall for sending them any money or
> your
> bank account numbers. First clue should be that a guy really named Joe
> Williams would not write such an ill framed letter since he should be much
> better
> versed in the English language and grammar.
>
> This is the second such situation I have become aware of in the past two
> months, which leads me to believe that these guys are surfing the web
> looking for
> bands websites and then contacting them about bogus potentially high
> paying
> gigs.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom Wiggins
>
>
>
> Mr.Joe Williams wrote:
>
>> *Hello,*
>> * I need to book for your Band services for my client for his
>> survival Party schedules to hold in the United state for the night of
>> 28th May 2005,Reply to my attention if the dates are not booked so
>> that we can booked it as soon as possible.We want to know the location
>> of your group and the amount it will cost for the night show on 28th
>> may in florida including transportation and hotel bill for your group.
>> Awaiting your immediate response.*
>> *Kindly regards,*
>> * Mr. Williams Joe*
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:17:22 +0100
> From: "John Farrell" <stridepiano at tesco.net>
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Bringing dead piano greats up to scratch
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID:
> <ellington$62.252.44.7$.PIEGKNHBJHIHFPKOIOJDEEKGCKAA.stridepiano at tesco.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Dear Bill,
>
> I already knew about the activities of Zenph, the subject was discussed at
> length on an internet mechanical music group to which I belong. Zenph has
> a
> website (sorry, I forget the URL) describing their process but
> unfortunately
> providing no audio examples to substantiate their claims.
>
> Until I hear some of this stuff I shall remain unconvinced. For years
> people
> have been trying to write a computer program which will convert an audio
> recording into a midi file, notably a bunch headed by a Russian who calls
> his project Widi, but they are still light years away from success (you
> can
> check for yourself - just enter Widi into Google). I have heard a Widi
> attempt at Tatum, it was just an incoherent mess.
>
> Of course should somebody ever crack the problem it would put my
> transcribing business down the toilet!
>
> Best regards,
>
> John Farrell
> http://homepages.tesco.net/~stridepiano/midifiles.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com]On Behalf Of Bill Haesler
> Sent: 09 May 2005 23:37
> To: dixieland jazz mail list
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Bringing dead piano greats up to scratch
>
>
> Dear friends,
> This appeared this morning in the 'Next' (computer) section of today's
> 'Sydney Morning Herald".
> A bit long, but the last paragraph may be of interest, particularly to
> list
> mate, John Farrell.
> Kind regards,
> Bill.
> ___________________________________________________________
>
> Bringing dead piano greats up to scratch
> By Mick Hamer
> May 10, 2005
> Next
>
> The month music lovers in Raleigh, North Carolina, will be able to hear in
> concert two of the greatest pianists of the 20th century, both of whom are
> long dead.
>
> Zenph Studios, a Raleigh-based software company, has found a way to take a
> music recording and convert it into a live concert played on real
> instruments. It will be a faithful rendition of the original pianists'
> work.
>
> Zenph resurrected a scratchy mono recording of Bach's Goldberg Variations,
> made by the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould in 1955, and a recording of a
> Chopin (below) prelude by Alfred Cortot in 1928. Cortot died in 1962,
> Gould
> in 1982.
>
> The breakthrough is to extract the sounds from audio recordings and
> convert
> them into a high-resolution version of MIDI, the standard way of coding
> music for computers. To do so they had to tackle the problem of polyphonic
> transcription - distinguishing several notes played simultaneously.
>
> Researchers have been trying for years to achieve this, but previous
> attempts have managed to identify at best 80-90 per cent of notes
> correctly
> - with about 10 per cent missing and another 10 per cent wrong.
>
> Advertisement
>
> Advertisement
>
> Zenph says it has found a way to do this, although for commercial reasons
> it
> won't release details. But the company is confident enough to have
> organised
> the concert, at which a Disklavier Pro piano, one of a handful of concert
> grands that can record and play back high-definition MIDI files, will
> replay
> Gould's and Cortot's work. The piano will replicate every note, down to
> the
> velocity of the hammer and position of the key when it was played.
>
> "We have only begun seeing excellent results in the past few weeks," says
> John Walker, president of Zenph Studios. "The results are note perfect."
>
> Mr Walker has an impressive history: before founding Zenph in 2002, he was
> a
> leading developer of VoIP, which allows phone calls to be carried on the
> internet.
>
> He says the precise timing of notes is almost as important as identifying
> the correct notes. One of Zenph's final checks is to play back the
> conversion on the Disklavier and to make an audio recording of it. The
> engineers then play back a stereo version of the music: one channel has
> the
> original recording, the other has the recording of the conversion. "If
> they're different by even a few milliseconds, the ear immediately
> identifies
> that something's wrong - there's a slight echo effect," Mr Walker says.
>
> Resurrected pieces include a scratchy recording of Bach's Goldberg
> Variations and a recording of a Chopin prelude.
>
> "The project at Zenph is definitely very, very interesting," says Anssi
> Klapuri, of the Tampere University of Technology, Finland, who is one of
> the
> world's leading experts on polyphonic transcription.
>
> The company is now working on a recording made at a private party by the
> jazz giant Art Tatum two years before his death in 1956. There are many
> recordings that have never been released because of some flaw, such as
> background noise or an out-of-tune piano. Zenph hopes that companies will
> use the technology to make recordings from this type of material, or to
> clean up noisy recordings.
>
> - New Scientist
> ________________________________________________________________
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:09:24 +0200
> From: "Robert Smith" <robert.smith at mitransport.no>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Photo of our clarinet/violin duo
> To: "Dixieland Jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <002e01c55526$d0703560$d0ec803e at RobertSPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Here is the URL to the photo that Steve mentions. Make sure you get the
> whole address in your web browser including the final "=".
> Poor Steve is partially hidden by the anti-copying text, but it's a good
> picture of Jonathan.
>
> http://photos.allaroundphilly.com/details.asp?imgID=129088_ArtsCraft41.jpg&Newspaper=Daily%20Local&ID=1671&Pub=Daily%20Local&Category=All%20Categories&DateRange=Last7Days&Keyword=&Photographer=
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob Smith
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:51:55 -0400
> From: "Craig I. Johnson" <civanj at adelphia.net>
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] (Urban legend) Bringing dead piano greats
> up to scratch
> To: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: John Farrell <stridepiano at tesco.net>
> Message-ID: <000601c55556$ac3f38a0$6501a8c0 at satchmo>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> John need not worry about the demise of his transcription business.
> I can vouch for what he has said. Being both a musician and
> a computer engineer/programmer, I have experimented with the Widi program
> (and its clone "Seven Canaries.")
> Unless Zeniph has gone significantly further than the Russians
> who wrote Widi I cannot possibly see how their demonstration would produce
> satisfactory replicas of the music of the dead pianists.
> (And these Russian programs do better than any of the others
> I have tried.)
>
> Widi does not handle polyphony worth a damn. There are all
> sorts 'bleeps and squawks" where there was music and also
> blanks where there was other music.
> Even when you do get a recognizable melody out of the computer
> you find that it is scattered over several midi "tracks" and bears
> no resemblence to to the allocation of the different strains to
> different instruments.
>
> It's easier to manually transcribe the music from listening,
> than it is to create the midi from a record. I am not even particularly
> thrilled
> at what I get out of playing a single voiced recording into the computer.
>
> Craig Johnson
> Trad cornet player + retired programmer.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:34:53 +0000
> From: rahberry at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Re:playing for disabled people in
> faciilies
> To: l.swain at comcast.net, dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID:
> <051020051334.25907.4280B87C000B293F000065332205886360979D9D0A0D080E9D at comcast.net>
>
>
> About 3 months ago I retired from Stanford Hospital. The mother of one of
> my patients had a stroke while visiting at the hospital. I was interested
> to learn that although she could not speak she was encouraged to sing
> "Happy Birthday." I learned that a different part of the brain has that
> very familiar tune stored away. Singing it helps the brain re-learn
> speech.
> Sadly, she died within about ten days of having the stroke.
> Rae Ann, San Francisco
>
>
>> On 10 May 2005 at 3:16, dixielandjazz-request at ml.islandnet.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > The hospital in which I practiced had a nursing home attached. One
>> > morning a
>> > week the chaplain, himself an amateur musician, would assemble
>> some of the
>> > patients for a "memories" session which would include music. One
>> elderly woman
>> > was sitting in the wheelchair with eyes closed. Hadn't spoken or
>> looked around
>> > the entire time that I'd observed her. They sang "Take me out to
>> the Ballgame."
>> > The woman opened her eyes, sang all the words. When it was over,
>> the slumped
>> > over and closed her eyes as before. To my knowledge, she never
>> spoke again.
>> >
>> > Simple, layman's explanation of this-- some imbedded memories are
>> in a different
>> > part of the brain.
>>
>> I worked a gig with Larry Zuk in the Boston area (he on string
>> bass, me on piano) last year where we played and sangodest fee) at
>> a facility for brain-damaged residents, and I was profoundly moved
>> to see that many of the residents who were there were mouthing the
>> words (precisely) to many of the old standards we played.
>>
>> Afterwards, many came up to us to thank us and give each of us an
>> enthusiastic hug for what we had done.
>>
>> When can I go back?
>>
>>
>>
>> Laurence Swain
>> l.swain at comcast.net
>> 617 (571) 7885
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dixielandjazz mailing list
>> Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
>> http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:55:51 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Bob Loomis <miltloomis at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] "The Gig"
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <20050510135551.23555.qmail at web53404.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Thanks to whoever suggested the film "The
> Gig." My wife and I enjoyed it thoroughly last
> night. I bought a copy after seeing it favorably
> mentioned on the DJML. Nice little film of the
> type Hollywood ain't making many of these days
> ... no car chases, no fleeing from raging
> infernos or zombies, no shootings, no mayhem
> (until near the end, when crooner Rick
> Valentine's bodyguard socks the bandleader) ...
> just a quiet little study of humans interacting
> in a very human drama about the nature of dreams
> and reality ... very nicely done. Too bad there
> aren't more of these. Reminded me of some of the
> finer French films I've seen. Good acting and a
> believable plot. Two thumbs up!
>
> Happy Webtrails, Bob Loomis
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:20:15 -0400
> From: Steve barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Nursing home gigs -
> To: LARRY'S Signs and Large Format Printing <sign.guy at charter.net>,
> DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <BEA63B5F.26CA%barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> LARRY'S at sign.guy at charter.net wrote:
>
>> I did a nursing home gig today that was a 50's review. Two of the old
>> ladies setting in the front row were doing hand jive that was popular in
>> the 50's. Somehow I don't think that sort of thing will happen in 40 or
>> so
>> years to def leopard or some heavy metal band. Picture a rap group doing
>> a
>> nursing home in 50 years.....scary
>
> Yeah, but especially scary in the audience. The women will have huge
> implant
> enlarged boobs and the men will be walking around with Viagra erections.
> Yet, because of Alzheimer's, they will have forgotten why.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:33:52 -0400
> From: Steve barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Teaching Jazz
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <BEA63E90.26CB%barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> "Patrick Cooke" <amazingbass at cox.net> wrote (polite snip)
>
>> What is taught (and how it is taught) in schools will, of course, vary
>> according to the likes, dislikes, and the performance ability of the
>> individual instructors. And I know that pressure is on the band director
>> to
>> produce "a band that can play something"...and soon.
>> I don't want to paint all school band directors with a broad brush; I can
>> only comment on the ones I have heard, which indeed a small sample of
>> them.
>> Band directors tend to teach the same way that they were taught. It
>> seems that the student is taught always with a sheet of music in front of
>> him. This is not the way to learn jazz. The band will sound good as
>> long
>> as they are reading the charts, but when one of them get up to
>> 'improvise' a
>> solo, the amatuerism really shows.
>> I remember hearing one such student band at a festival, and the band
>> director took a trumpet solo....he didn't sound much better than the
>> kids!
>> I remember once having dinner with two old high school chums who went
>> on to be school band directors. I mentioned one of our old classmates
>> who
>> became quite a good jazz performer, but wasn't much of a section player,
>> which was their main bag.. Both of these band director friends could
>> read
>> anything, but neither could fake a four bar introduction to Twinkle
>> Twinkle.
>> They dismissed the accomplished jazz artist with "Oh, he's 'just' a jazz
>> player. These the mindsets of some of the people 'teaching' jazz. It
>> seems
>> that some of the students eventually wind up being good jazz players in
>> spite of their teachers.
>
> Amen Pat.
>
> Of all the art forms, "JAZZ" is both the most difficult to learn and the
> most difficult to teach.
>
> There are lots of musicians who also claim to play or teach jazz, but damn
> few jazz musicians or teachers, if you get my drift.
>
> "Jazz" musicians/teachers are very different people, masters of their
> horns
> and of the genre.
>
> Even if they didn't amass huge record collections and spend 20,000 hours
> listening to dead guys. :-) VBG.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:45:13 EDT
> From: Coastsidegiraffe at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] "The Gig"
> To: miltloomis at yahoo.com, dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <128.5c8a45f5.2fb23f19 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Where did you find "The Gig?" I can't locate it.
>
> Thanks!
> Karen Brooks
> Pacifica, CA
>
>
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