[Dixielandjazz] Music In Church - Jazzing up Religious Songs

tcashwigg at aol.com tcashwigg at aol.com
Fri Jul 15 13:27:22 PDT 2005


Good money if you call it whatever they want it to be  : ))

"Live Band" usually gets the bottom end of the pay scale:  :))

Try Spiking your green or orange hair, piercing your nose,  getting 
lots of Tattoos of Jesus, wear short pants and sleeveless shirts to 
show them off, wearing an earring, ( in the proper ear) don't want to 
be considered a purple tele tubby now.

Print up some cards that say you are a Jesus Punk Thrash Rock Band or 
Holy Hip Hop & Rappin for Jesus band, and start raking in the cash 
playing for the folks who not too long ago were burning rock records.

Musical content:   "Will it Go ROUND IN CIRCLES?"

CHEERS,

rev Tom Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: LARRY'S Signs and Large Format Printing <sign.guy at charter.net>
To: Steve barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>; DJML 
<dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:09:45 -0500
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Music In Church - Jazzing up Religious 
Songs

   Steve:
  I worked with a Quaker and I don't think they have music in their 
meetings
or as a regular part of those meetings but not being a Quaker I really 
don't
know.  Sorry I called the Meeting Houses, Churches.  A senior moment.

I too have played for a variety of church run facilities and groups.  
It's
sort of like dancing.  I have played for a variety of church dances but
those same churches have very little dancing in their religious 
services.
What they do in their services is different than what they do outside of
their services.

It seems that most religious groups have softened their views on music 
in
the church and aren't as rigid as 50 years ago.

You mentioned Duke Ellington.  I had a student that had a wonderful 
ear.  He
grew up playing in Black churches and had a terrific grasp of jazz and
blues.  I talked to all my students about various aspects of jazz as a
matter of course and had them play some standards.  His mother got all 
over
my case for teaching her son jazz.  I tried to explain to her that that 
was
what he was playing but she wouldn't have any of it.  So I left the word
Jazz out and we moved into more religious tunes.  Teachers can't do that
today.  I heard him a few weeks ago and what a musician.  Very Cool.

Jazz or Contemporary Gospel. What's in a name?
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:35 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Music In Church - Jazzing up Religious Songs


> There has almost always been music in churches. Many of the great
classical
> composers made a living writing "Church" music. e.g. Bach et al.
>
> Those that might ban it today are usually just an individual pastor, 
or
some
> sort of offshoot from mainstream religion.
>
> Quakers do not ban music in their churches. They have no churches, but
> rather have "Meeting Houses" and they hold musical events in these 
Meeting
> Houses. I've played a few within the past several years and attended
others.
> Jazz/Classical/Folk etc.
>
> Saints, Closer Walk, What A Friend We Have In Jesus, Amazing Grace, 
etc.,
> are for the most part quite acceptable in most churches. And "Gospel"
music
> originated in churches, no? There are exceptions however usually on an
> individual basis.
>
> Some are hard to fathom, like Duke Ellington refused to play tunes 
like
the
> Saints because he felt religious music should not be jazzed up. Yet he
> composed "Religious" music, that to some, sounds jazzy. Hmmmm.
>
> Also, some Jehovah Witnesses will not play Religious tunes, and/or 
wear
> uniforms (rainments) and or play patriotic tunes like It's A Grand Old
> Flag." But most other religions have no such prohibitions on music.
Indeed,
> most preach "Make A Joyful Noise Unto The Lord."
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
>
> PS. Who despite his religious, or lack thereof beliefs, has played 
jazz in
> Catholic, Episcopal, Presbyterian, Unitarian, Non-denominational, and
> Lutheran churches as well as Quaker Meeting Houses.
>
> And has also played at retirement facilities owned and run by 
Catholic,
> Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Episcopal, Jewish and Mennonite
Religious
> Organizations.
>
> These are from memory. Quite possibly a some other religions also like
"The
> Church of What's Happening Now." :-) VBG
>
>
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