[Dixielandjazz] politically correct?
tcashwigg at aol.com
tcashwigg at aol.com
Thu Jul 14 15:40:08 PDT 2005
Thanks Stan:
Chickery Chick would probably offend someone like Gloria Steinem of the
Women's Liberation movement, or perhaps Angela Davis who might
interpret it as refering to the color of her coffee and the ingredient
added to in in New Orleans.
Black Girls was actually a very very popular song, and trust me when
our Lovely Singer Zorina London sings "Love for Sale" there ain't a
man in the house not reaching for his wallet or money clip, and for the
next two hours there are old guys walking around with $100.00 bills
stuck on their foreheads grinning from ear to ear.
In the words of my good buddy Chick Willis, she can sell a Blind man a
flashlight and make him look for it in the daylight.
Only a Politician can ever be politically correct because they go both
ways all the time to collect all the votes they can get.
Cheers,
Tom Wiggins
"I may not be right but I ain't never wrong" My dearly departed Daddy
said that to me many times as he whupped my butt for being wrong, often
in my brothers stead who had actually done the wrong.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Brager <sbrager at socal.rr.com>
To: tcashwigg at aol.com; Cebuisle2 at aol.com; dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:50:16 -0700
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] politically correct?
Great answer, Tom. If we were to be politically correct at all
times, I
don't know if there would be any song which could be played with the
possible exception of "Chickery Chick". But, then again, a chicken
rancher
might be upset.
When I had my own show on radio, I didn't consider the racial content
of the
music and no one ever took offense with songs as diverse as "Snowball",
"Red
Wing", "Black Girl" and "Love For Sale".
Stan
Stan Brager
----- Original Message -----
From: <tcashwigg at aol.com>
To: <Cebuisle2 at aol.com>; <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] politically correct?
> Having played professionally for forty plus years I pride myself as a
> bandleader in being able to program any given gig with the appropriate
> songs suitable for all audiences and if there is some Johnny come
> lately wannabe politically correct twit in the audience who is too
> ignorant to understand the historical and Traditional values of a
great
> song then as far as I am concerned they can just be offended. As they
> are obviously politically incorrect in being at the event in the first
> place.
>
> I also have an almost all Black ( not African) American Band and I
> have never had a problem form one of them regarding not wanting to
play
> a song. However I have not asked them to play DIXIE yet, :)) That
> one might raise a stink. To not play a beautiful tune like Black and
> Blue would be a great disservice to the songwriter, and the same with
> Darktown Strutters Ball which I believe was written for Hookers, and
> not racial at all. If one Black person in the audience complained
> about us playing Black and Blue I would follow it up with "We Shall
> Overcome" and dedicate it to my new found offended fan, and save
> "Mammy" for the encore. :))
>
> As I said it is only a twit that has to try and be politically
correct,
> people of all races are funny and the cultural differences make it
that
> way, I have often been in the company of some so called high brow
> highly educated politically correct affirmative action PHDs at Black
> social events, and witnessed them slip right into the Ghetto
> communication mode calling each other MF and using the N word freely
> amongst themselves. Political correctness is mainly trotted out when
> someone wants to call extra attention to themselves and play the RACE
> CARD. Happens all the time, and quite often these same folks are
> irritating to the others in the room who do not subscribe to such
> nonsense. "Nigger is not a Color" it is an attitude, and disease
> which can and does afflict all manner of folks. :)) African is not
a
> color, but "Black" is and so is White, Yellow, and Red, Pink and
Brown,
> and people come in all colors, I have even seen Blue Men on
television.
> :))
>
> Now the ugliest word know is "Politician"
>
> Musical content: "Don't Scandalize my Name" and, "Play that Funky
> Music White Boy"
>
> cheers,
>
> Tom Wiggins
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cebuisle2 at aol.com
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Sent: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:23:17 EDT
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] politically correct?
>
> Hello I
>
> How does one keep political correctness out of jazz performances
today?
> I
> enjoyed Rick Knittel's description of a jazz funeral he played. The
> deceased had
>
> a special fondness for the "Darktown Strutters Ball" which is one
of
> my
> favorites also. Our occasion was a "freebie" for the United Way
> banquet. (more
> on "freebies" later) I suggested playing the "Strutters" (heck, I
> had put
> the group together a year earlier) and the clarinetist immediately
> objected as
> there was an African-American in the room. We weren't planning to
sing
> it-just play it. I scratched the song from the set.
>
> How do you active musicians handle this? Do you toss all tunes that
> have any
> racial connotation "Black and Blue": comes to mind - along with a
whole
> host
> of jazz standards used by Bessie Smith et.al.
>
> Just wondering------
>
>
>
> Tradjazz
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