[Dixielandjazz] Re: Dixielandjazz Digest, Vol 31, Issue 8

[Patrick Cooke]

Gunter asks:

>What's there to "take apart???"

Bill, I'd love to continue this on line, but out of respect for the other 
listees, I reply off line.  You have my pemission to copy anyone you think 
may be interested, but only if you copy my messages in their entirety.....no 
snips.
     Pat



> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 21:54:13 +0000
> From: "Bill Gunter" <jazzboard at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Re: Battle Hymn & John Brown
> To: amazingbass at cox.net, dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
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> Hi Pat,
>
> You wrote:
>
>>I have disagreed with you before, and it is no surprise that I have to
>>respectfully disagree with you again.
>>      I could take apart your post piece by piece, . . . "
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
> I didn't realize we were debating the morality of this issue. I certainly
> wasn't.
>
> All I was suggesting was that Julia got her inspiration from an earlier 
> tune
> she heard called "John Brown's Body Lies a Moulderin' in the Grave"
>
> Now Julia wrote these lines:
>
> "Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord
> He has trampled out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are store
> He has loosed the fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword
> His truth goes marching on . . .
>
> Glory Glory Haleluja, etc."
>
> Are those the lyrics to which you object?
>
> The song she heard (to the same melody as "Battle Hymn of the Republic" 
> was:
>
> "John Brown's body lies a-mouldering in the grave,
> John Brown's body lies a-mouldering in the grave,
> But his soul goes marching on.
>
> Glory, glory, hallelujah, etc."
>
> Are those the lyrics to which you object?
>
> Recollect, Pat, that I was simply looking at the sequence of lyric 
> versions
> set to the tune of "Glory glory haleluja . . ." including the silly 
> parodies
> such as "We wear our pink pajamas in the summer when it's hot . . . etc."
>
> I guess your response may be based on your answer to the following choices 
> .
> . .
>
> The Julia W. Howe song, "Battle Hymn of the Republic" is (choose one):
>
> A. a noble song with a noble theme of righteousness rising up to vanquish
> evil.
> B. an evil song the sole purpose of which is to justify the killing of
> innocent people with whom you disagree.
> C. a song sung by one's peer group to articulate one's own attitudes.
> D. a piece of music from which one can derive his or her own 
> interpretations
> E. All of the above.
> F. None of the above.
>
> However, I have not advocated any position of any sort regarding this song
> other than take a casual glance at its several manifestations over the
> years.
>
> What's there to "take apart???"
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill
> jazzboard at hotmail.com
>
>