[Dixielandjazz] Correct spelling - Not Star Dust

[Stan Brager]

Thanks for the definitive word about the spelling and definition of
"'tain't". No one can tell you, "'tain't so, honey, 'tain't so."

Stan (just a bit tainted) Brager

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Gunter" <jazzboard at hotmail.com>
To: <sbrager at socal.rr.com>; <cemerich at woh.rr.com>;
<gerardbielderman at freeler.nl>; <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Correct spelling - Not Star Dust


> Grammarians!
>
> My Merriam-Webster online dictionary responds to the query thusly:
>
> Main Entry: 'tain't
> Pronunciation: 'tAnt
> : it ain't
>
> It is a contraction of two words (it & ain't). An apostrophe is used to
show
> where letters have been omitted in a contraction.
>
> One of the words (ain't) is already a contraction and has the required
> apostrophe. The letter I, having been dropped in the contraction should
> (notice I say "should" and not "must") logically use the apostrophe to
> indicate its omission.
>
> Since the word is non-standard anyway, my judgment, as a grammarian, is
that
> BOTH are correct,
>
> 1. 'tain't is correct by the rules of grammar and by usage
>
> 2. tain't is also correct by usage.
>
> examples abound of both being used . . . for example, click on this:
>
> http://www.heptune.com/taintnob.html
>
> and this from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language:
>
> 'tain't
> VARIANT FORMS: or tain't
> nonstandard Contraction of it ain't.
>
> Conclusion:  Ain't no correct spelling of the word. You may go with
whatever
> moves you with impunity and be acceptible in the world of letters.
>
> Respectfully submitted,
>
> Bill ('Tain't Nobody's Business) Gunter
> jazzboard at hotmail.com
>
> ps - see also " 'tisn't."
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Stan Brager" <sbrager at socal.rr.com>
> >To: "Carol Emerich" <cemerich at woh.rr.com>,"Gerard Bielderman"
> ><gerardbielderman at freeler.nl>,"dixieland jazz mail list"
> ><dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Correct spelling - Not Star Dust
> >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:23:38 -0800
> >
> >I'm not a grammarian nor have I ever won a spelling bee, so I consulted
> >with
> >three men who had the proper credentials. They each agreed and said,
> >"Tain't
> >what you do".
> >
> >Stan
> >Stan Brager
> >
> >The three men were Sy Oliver, Trummy Young, and Jimmie Lunceford as many
of
> >you know.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Carol Emerich" <cemerich at woh.rr.com>
> >To: "Gerard Bielderman" <gerardbielderman at freeler.nl>; "dixieland jazz
mail
> >list" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> >Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 7:12 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Correct spelling - Star Dust
> >
> >
> > > Another long time lurker comes out of hiding.
> > >
> > > First recorded Oct 31 1927 on the Gennett label in Richmond, IN, it
was
> >Star
> > > Dust.  Two words.  In 1929 when Mitchell Parish was hired to provide
> >words,
> > > it became a one word title, Stardust.  Complete information can be
found
> >in
> > > the book "Jelly Roll, Bix and Hoagy:Gennett Studios and the Birth of
> > > Recorded Jazz"  by Rick Kennedy.  Also there you will find lyrics
> >written
> >by
> > > Hoagy in 1928, but never recorded.
> > >
> > > Carol in Ohio
> > > Member of the Starr-Gennett Foundation in Richmond IN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gerard Bielderman" <gerardbielderman at freeler.nl>
> > > To: "DJM List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:14 AM
> > > Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Correct spelling
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear listmates,
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if you can tell me the correct writing for the following
> >titles:
> > > > Moon Glow    or    Moonglow
> > > > Star Dust    or    Stardust.
> > > > And what about titles beginning with:
> > > > 'Tain't    or  T'ain't    or 't Ain't      ???
> > > >
> > > > Another "problem" for a discographer is: Should I copy the titles as
> > > listed
> > > > on the record label or sleeve, also when it's not correct or should
I
> > > always
> > > > give the correct title used by the composer(s) (as far as known)?
> > > >
> > > > P.S. For those interested, I have a new e-mail address:
> > > > gerard.bielderman at tiscali.nl
> > > > but the old one is still valid.....
> > > >
> > > > Gerard Bielderman / Leie 18 / 8032 ZG  ZWOLLE / Netherlands
> > > > Publisher of jazz discographies
> > > >
> > > >
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