[Dixielandjazz] Rap evolution v. OKOM evolution

tcashwigg at aol.com tcashwigg at aol.com
Fri Dec 9 13:17:38 PST 2005

Yo Mamma & the Horse she rode in on man,

who be pimpin' yo horses out now slack?

holla back?

Back street mofo  on da prowl

Got some chicks  ain't none of em' hicks !

Layin' down da music wit some really hot licks !

Got da Bass and got d a beats

we's commin to yo house for the eats


Tom da new street poet

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 12:08:12 -0500
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Rap evolution v. OKOM evolution

    Rap has been around since the 70's. Back then it was really great 
for the
young people. No cursing, no filth, etc. Filled with great promise as a 
of musical poetry with a message.

Since that time it has evolved into some pretty nasty stuff. Especially 
the CD versions, or live performances which are not censored.

When you compare the radio broadcast versions of today's rap to the same
songs(?) released for the CD market they are quite mild. For proof 
listen to
50 Cent on the radio and then buy the same song on CD. Woowee!!!!!

Interesting that jazz seems to have evolved in opposite manner. Started 
as erotic; whore house piano players; filled with inside sex messages; 
the rest of the world connotations; played in Gangster Joints where the 
(prohibition) was ignored; music the Mob loved; a myriad of drug related
messages; in the midst of shootings and killings etc. Now evolved into 
and played frequently in Churches.

Those of us my age, who were working jazz musicians shortly after WW 2,
remember well that the establishment looked upon jazz musicians as sex
crazed, women chasing, ignorant druggies/alcoholics and generally
categorized as the scum of the earth. And if you played in an integrated
band, you were, screamed at as a "nigger lover" which, to the ignorant
whites who screamed, was the worst thing they could say about another 

Those negative establishment opinions were even stronger in the 1920's 
30's according to oral and written history.



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