[Dixielandjazz] New Orleans Rap???? - What????

Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis larrys.bands at charter.net
Tue Dec 6 16:07:27 PST 2005


George Burns once said he invented rap and then proceeded to do some of his 
stuff with a beat.  Of course he had been sing songing poetry for years. 
Just add a few MF's etc and he would make a fortune today.
Larry Walton
St. Louis
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <tcashwigg at aol.com>
To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] New Orleans Rap???? - What????


Right you are Dave,  it has been quite extensive down there for a few
years now, probably had some influence coming over from Atlanta where
it is also a big movement in the Black musical community, and there is
substantial going back and forth between the two cities with musicians.
  I think a lot of this is because the acts are still chasing the dream
of hearing their music on the radio and getting a big hit record,
therefore they try to stay hip and on the cutting edge of every new
scene coming out of the music in the inner cities.   It has been that
way since forever, even in the beginnings of Rag time and Jazz no
doubt, artists always trying to evolve and reinvent themselves
musically and not stagnate and get bored into quitting.   'Tis the
creative beast within I suppose.

Kermit Ruffins  has also incorporated some of it into his shows, and
Re-Birth  is heavy into it.
Would not be surprised to learn that Wynton Marsalis & others attempt
it as well if not already.

Rest assured however that Saint Gabriel's Celestial Brass Band ain't
gonna be doing any RAP not our scene and I don't want to play where
that scene is either.   It makes me about as comfortable as playing on
a Heavy Metal Concert :))
( and I ain't talking about the weight of the horns in the band
either).  :))

Cheers,

Tom,   Who only raps his knuckles occasionally on a misplaced  rim
shot, :))


-----Original Message-----
From: David Richoux <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
To: DJML Jazz <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:18:05 -0800
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] New Orleans Rap???? - What????

   Steve,

  It actually is kind of OKOM related - the local thing there is to
combine the music from New Orleans Brass bands ("new style" like Dirty
Dozen. ReBirth, etc.) with the rapping. I have heard this done pretty
well a few times on recordings (YoungBlood Brass Band in particular )
but the "live" performances by other bands with rappers at Donna's were
not as good, IMO.

 Dave Richoux
 On Dec 6, 2005, at 6:45 AM, Steve barbone wrote:

  > NOT OKOM, IN FACT ABOUT A GENRE DETESTED BY MANY OKOMers. DELETE >
NOW UNLESS
  > YOU ARE CURIOUS ABOUT NEW ORLEANS CURRENTLY AS A CENTER OF RAP, AND
> THE NEW
 > DEFINITION OF CRIBS.
 >
 > THE BELOW QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE IS A BIT MUCH, NO? :-) VBG
 >
  > "And yet hip-hop is by far New Orleans's most popular musical >
export, and
 > perhaps the most exciting."
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Steve
 >
 snip
  > And yet hip-hop is by far New Orleans's most popular musical >
export, and
  > perhaps the most exciting. The city nurtures its own hip-hop
subgenre,
  > bounce music (imagine a drum-machine version of a marching-band >
version of a
  > funk track), and has churned out a fistful of mainstream stars, >
including
  > Master P, Mystikal and Juvenile, the former Hot Boy, who still >
makes hits.
 > (His next album is due in February.)
 >

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