[Dixielandjazz] Re: Ride cymbals (and Krupa)

[Tony Orr]

Bill

I will try to locate the 78 ASAP and post details, even send you an MP3.
I am sure it is not a rarity and has some big names in the session.
Unfortunately, my records are NOT organised so, it means foraging
through all those boxes under the bed. Please give me a day or two.

cheers

Tony Orr

Bill Haesler wrote:
> Friends: Most of you may wish to delete now, as this is about real old
> stuff.
> 8>)
> Dear Tony,
> Regarding your comment that> The clip of the recording of Krupa at
> http://www.traditional-jazz.com/pge_krup.htm is quite different to the Red
> Nicholls and His Five Pennies 78 I have where Krupa switched from
> 
>>2/4 to 4/4 in one chorus which brings the whole thing to the boil.<
> 
> This has me intrigued.
> The clip on the Krupa article link, provided by John Petters, is from the
> Red Nichols and His Five Pennies Brunswick record date of 2 July 1930 with
> soloists big Tea, BG and Joe Sullivan in the 12 piece big band.
> This is the only version of "China Boy" (E-33306-A) recorded under Nichols'
> name that I can recall. And there are no alternate masters of it that I know
> of. You probably have it on an English Brunswick 78.
> Did you, perhaps, click on page 1 of the Krupa article (written,
> incidentally, by a modest Mr Petters) and get the clip of the
> McKenzie-Condon "China Boy"?
> In the article John says: "With the same band we hear, what is believed to
> be the first example of open ride cymbal, played behind Nichols' solo on
> "China Boy". The open ring of the cymbal can be clearly heard on this clip.
> Listen for the rim shot just before the end of the solo - another GK trade
> mark that was to be put in practice with the Goodman band a few years
> later."
> Mmmmmmmmm.
> I have had this beautiful record for many years (a favourite) and have just
> played it again (several times - the LP and CD) listening for the 'ride'
> cymbal behind Nichols' solo. The rim shot (or is it a smack on the snare?)
> is there but I can only 'feel', but really can't hear, the ride cymbal.
> Are we talking about the same record?
> Esoteric stuff indeed.
> Very kind regards,
> Bill.
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