[Dixielandjazz] Re: "police" & rules - was Watch Your Back - washaiku

[Chris Calabrese]

> as syllables. In our barbarian effort to understand, we say syllable,
> however that just proves our ignorance in our attempt to codify an
> unfamiliar art form into something our simple minds can understand.


We simple-minded barbarians are so grateful to have superior minds like 
yours to explain this stuff to us! Domo arigato sensei!

~ Chris

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: "Bill Gunter" <jazzboard at hotmail.com>; <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:57 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re: "police" & rules - was Watch Your Back - 
washaiku


> Dear Bill:
>
> You still don't get it do you?
>
> I am ROTFLMAO
>
> If I thought you were serious I would respond in song titles with what we
> Americans seem to be saying is Haiku;  Like:
>
> Sorry. Bill. You are
> So Vain You Probably Think
> This Song Is About You.
>
> However, please all you haiku experts, note the following:
>
> One of the greatest exponents of this art form in Japan was Basho 
> (1644-94)
>
> Three Haiku by Basho
>
> Waterjar cracks:
> I lie awake
> This icy night.
>
> Lightning:
> Heron's cry
> Stabs the darkness
>
> Sick on a journey:
> Over parched fields
> Dreams wander on.
>
> NOW, WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT 17 SYLABLES? IN 5, 7, 5 sequence? The above is
> classical Haiku from the 17th Century. The form referred to is that the 
> poem
> must be rendered in 17 written JAPANESE CHARACTERS. These are not the same
> as syllables. In our barbarian effort to understand, we say syllable,
> however that just proves our ignorance in our attempt to codify an
> unfamiliar art form into something our simple minds can understand. For us
> to compare the American/English written form (words) to Japanese character
> printed form (art) is simply absurd.
>
> In addition, the rules from the days of Classical Haiku to Modern Haiku 
> have
> changed too, just like jazz. They have been "reformed" by learned Japanese
> during the past 4 centuries.
>
> So, if I may quote you, "Ptooey, phhhthh, bleacchhhh, and doo doo!"
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
>
>