[Dixielandjazz] Uniforms & Agents - Redux

Sun Jun 27 15:36:51 PDT 2004

Indeed the fefintition of an impeachable offense is in the US Constitution.
It is "High Crimes and misdemeaners."
Don
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Cooke" <patcooke at cox.net>
To: "WILLIAM HORTON" <WILLIAMHORTON at peoplepc.com>; "DJML"
<Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Uniforms & Agents - Redux


> >>Could you cite which article of the Consitution specifies that as an
> impeachable offense?
>
>       Nothing in the constitution that I know of, Bill;  I just thought it
> was a good idea :-)
>
>        Pat Cooke
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "WILLIAM HORTON" <WILLIAMHORTON at peoplepc.com>
> To: "DJML" <Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>; "Patrick Cooke"
> <patcooke at cox.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 11:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Uniforms & Agents - Redux
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Patrick Cooke" <patcooke at cox.net>
> > To: <TCASHWIGG at aol.com>; <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 18:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Uniforms & Agents - Redux
> >
> >
> > > Uniforms are for identification...usually to identify the wearer as a
> > > menial.
> >
> > Like Admirals or Generals or the Pope or Priests or Nuns or members of
the
> > NY Yankees or the Oakland Raiders???
> >
> >  >This notion was crystallized for me back when Nixon had some snooty
> > > get together at the white house
> >
> > "Snooty"?  You mean it wasn't an old t-shirt beer blast out in the
parking
> > lot?
> >
> >  >and had the band dressed up in some
> > > ridiculous 'student prince' type costumes mainly so the guests
wouldn't
> > > mistake them for another guest.
> >
> > Ah, the old mind-reading act with the crystal ball!
> >
> >  >They should have impeached him for that and
> > > we would have avoided the Watergate debacle!
> >
> > Could you cite which article of the Consitution specifies that as an
> > impeachable offense?
> >
> > >
> > >    Pat Cooke
> >
> > Bill "I didn't vote for Nixon, but" Horton
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: <TCASHWIGG at aol.com>
> > > To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Uniforms & Agents - Redux
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Steve:
> > > >
> > > > I worked a few jobs for an agent like that,  how do you think I got
> all
> > my
> > > > uniforms, ha ha.
> > > >
> > > > Everytime this schmuck called he wanted something different,
> > > >
> > > > A gospel Show with GOLD Choir Robes for the band and twenty singers.
> > > > I could not rent them so I made him buy them which I now own and use
> for
> > > the
> > > > Daint Gabriel's Celestial Brass Band and the Pearly Gate Singers
Show.
> > > > Cost his client some big bucks for that day too.   It was actually a
> Big
> > > > Funeral/Life Celebration affair for some wealthy guy that died in
San
> > > Francisco.
> > > >
> > > > Same agent booked us for a 4th July Parade and insisted we wear some
> Red
> > > > White & Blues Uniforms,  Not a problem charged him $250.00 per man
> extra
> > > and went
> > > > out and bought them.   They have paid for themselves many times over
> and
> > > have
> > > > gotten us more Television coverage around the world than I can even
> keep
> > > track
> > > > of.
> > > >
> > > > I have another custom made set with Uncle Sam on the back in Red
White
> &
> > > Blue
> > > > as well, we also do a Red White & Blues Festival show.
> > > >
> > > > We do however refuse to wear so called Dixieland attire of straw
hats
> > and
> > > > striped vests, for much the same reason as you guys,  We don't want
to
> > be
> > > > catagorized as one of THOSE old timey cheap bands from the pizza
> parlor.
> > > >
> > > > We also have Pierre Cardin Long Tailed Tuxedos in White, and Maroon
> > which
> > > we
> > > > wear with White Baseball caps and Red & White or Blue and White
Tennis
> > > shows
> > > > which I use for Really special occassions and Rich funerals,  I
charge
> > an
> > > extra
> > > > $100.00 per man for cleaning of them after every show.  They also
are
> > very
> > > > colorful mixed or matched.   We also wear our own Custome made T or
> Polo
> > > shirts
> > > > in Red White or Blue with them, NO tie .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think this is what the Union used to call Grotesque costumes and
> made
> > > the
> > > > clients pay more to humiliate the musicians by asking them to wear
> them,
> > > in
> > > > stead of the regulation Blue or Black suit.   I know a few old
timers
> > who
> > > are
> > > > still wearing the same Blues suit forty years later to every gig,
and
> > some
> > > of
> > > > them have Never even been to the Cleaners.
> > > >
> > > > One old tuba player still wears his witht he mustard stains on the
> right
> > > knee
> > > > where he wiped his hands after eating a rather messy Hot dog at
> > > intermission
> > > > on a gig in 1968, :))
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like your Agent guy is listed in the Events Planner category
of
> > the
> > > > yellow pages, or maybe the country fair agencies under circus acts.
> I
> > > just
> > > > love those kind of sophisticated talent buyers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I do however like uniforms for bands, it sets them apart form the
> > audience
> > > > and actually gives them professional Class when folks can walk up to
> > them
> > > and
> > > > talk after the shows and feel like they have met some special people
> and
> > > > celebrities in show business.
> > > >
> > > > This can also be done without the uniforms but usually not until
after
> > > like
> > > > Barbone Street Jazz Band has played around enough to establish a
> > > reputation as
> > > > great entertainers and musicians.   It works for you guys, and
Willie
> > > Nelson,
> > > > but at the same time the Uniforms put my group on the International
> Map
> > in
> > > > 1990.  We like looking special and sounding special so we Dress for

> > > Success.
> > > >
> > > > By the way the uniforms do not have to match nor even be the same
> thing,
> > > just
> > > > clothes that set the act out as something different and or special.
> > Now
> > > I
> > > > am sure Barbone Street  dresses fine but looks like a group of
Doctors
> > on
> > > their
> > > > day off playing a little music for the neighborhood Bar B Que Party.
> > > > Nothing wrong with that either especially if the Bar B Que is for
> 10,000
> > > people and
> > > > sponsored by the City.  :)))
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now on a serious note:   I supply all the uniforms and maintain them
> for
> > > the
> > > > band for several reasons besides the above mentioned ones.
> > > >
> > > > 1. It  saves a lot of excess baggage charges for the band,   They
> don't
> > > have
> > > > to bring three suitcases of clothes per man on tour.   I collect
them
> > all
> > > > after every show and have them laundered and or cleaned.   We carry
> > about
> > > four
> > > > different sets on tour and can mix & match most of them for a
> different
> > > look
> > > > every day or even every show.
> > > >
> > > > 2.  I have a predominately Black American Band, and Black American
> > players
> > > > like to look good and dress a bit on the Flashy side.  They actually
> > like
> > > > uniforms because it has proven to get them respect from some folks
who
> > > normally
> > > > would not have any respect for them, but do respect the uniform as a
> > > symbol of
> > > > success.  I think we learned that from the Military training, ( you
> may
> > > not like
> > > > the man wearing it but you better salute the uniform) especially if
it
> > > shows
> > > > higher rank than you have achieved.
> > > >
> > > > 3.   It has also broken down some pretty rigid racial barriers for
us
> in
> > > some
> > > > places, from folks who are less tolerant of Black Folks in their
> > > communities.
> > > >
> > > > 4.    It helps me keep track of my guys on the road in Train depots

> and
> > > > airports and even at large festivals, where they are easier to find
in
> a
> > > crowd,
> > > > when we are on the road we have to operate as a team and stick
> together
> > > and look
> > > > out for one another's back.
> > > >
> > > > 5.   Great for Television coverage and looks really good in Living
> Color
> > > on
> > > > the front page of the Newspapers and Entertainment magazines as
well.
> > not
> > > to
> > > > mention six feet tall posters all over a city when you arrive.
> Instant
> > > > recognition and a great attraction before you even play a note.    I
> > can't
> > > tell you
> > > > how many times people have walked up to us and said "wow you guys
look
> > > great, I
> > > > can't wait to hear you play".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Tom Wiggins
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