[Dixielandjazz] First position on the trombone

[Bryan Livett]

Hear hear, Jim!  us trambone players gotta stick together... I believe Jiggs
Whigam likes that strange 1st position thing, even designed the 2B named
after him with a short tuning slide so you have to play first position
slight lower than "normal"...go figure!

Then you have Bachs and Williams with the "short" bell and the Kuhnl & Hoyer
which is even shorter... it's difficult enough the play the damn thing in
tune without complicating matters with trombone design!

Bryan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Kashishian" <kash at ran.es>
To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 6:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] First position on the trombone


> Stan wrote:
> When I was taking my first trombone lessons, my teacher told me that many
> players adjust their tuning slides to have first position out from the
> closed position for 3 reasons. One was for slide vibrato, another was to
> keep the trombone in tune as the temperature changes, and the third was to
> avoid a clang when the slide is brought quickly to the first position.
>
> And, I comment:
>
> Oops, Stan.  Did your trombone teacher actually play the trombone?  :>
>
> Seriously, I don't wish to get anyone's backs up, and I'm not the last
word
> in this sort of thing....but, I'll have to think about it (maybe pay
> attention while playing?) to see if I use slide vibrato in 1st. position.
I
> kind of doubt it, though.  There are always false positions if one feels
he
> must use the slide vibrato on a note normally played in first position.
>
> Tuning as the temperature changes....one normally uses the tuning slide
for
> those adjustments, in spite of "rusty" Bob.  :>
>
> For tuning to other member's problems, that's what thems chops are for.
>
> Clanging in first position?  First of all, there should be a cork at the
top
> of your slide.  If there isn't, go to the repair shop.  It's a little
piece
> of cork in the shape of a ring (like the one on your finger).  Secondly,
if
> you hit the top, then you haven't got much control on your slide.
>
> If 1st is lowered, than all your other positions must be lower.  I know
> we're only talking a tiny bit, but a tiny bit flat is flat/or a bit sharp
is
> sharp!
>
> What do I know about it?  Dunno, only been doing it steadily for 52 yrs
now,
> 25 as a studio session musician.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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