[Dixielandjazz] Re: Tommy Dorsey or King Oliver

[Wim Mossel]

Dear Bill and other listmates,

At 04/06/05 09:22, Bill Haesler wrote:
>Dear Al,
>Regarding your reply to John Farrell:  > There are 78's with Tom Dorsey on
>Cornet and Trumpet. <
>
>There certainly are.
>Here is a chronological list I prepared for one of my radio programs a few
>years back.=20
>Paul Whiteman Aug 1927
>   etc...
>Blind Willie Dunn 30 April 1929
>   Jet Black Blues =20
>   Blue Blood Blues

etc.

I disagree with you about the Blind Willie Dunn session of 30 April 1929.
For me it is not Tommy Dorsey but King Oliver.
When you listen to this two tracks and compare them with the four tracks of 
Tommy Dorsey from 10 Nov 1928 and 23 April 1929
first it is clear as glass to me that it is not the same trumpet player
second the trumpet player on the BWD session is Oliver.
Moreover there are the two tracks Clarence Williams And His Novelty Four 
from November 23, 1928 (In The Bottle Blues and What You Want Me To Do).
I have all the 8 tracks on CD remastered by John R.T. Davies, so there are 
no problems in sound quality.
All the 8 tracks have about the same line up, you can compare them well.

On page 118 and 119 of the book King Oliver by Walt Allen (revised by 
Laurie Wright) the story about the suggestion of Tommy Dorsey is written. 
But I guess when the suggestion was made only the 78th were listened and 
what was the quality of that discs?
 From the book: "However, the trumpet range heard here is greater than that 
employed by Oliver and the vibrato is found on no authenticated Oliver 
recording".
Well if it is an other trumpet player than Oliver, he copies the timing and 
sound of Oliver so good that it must be his twin brother (but that one I 
never met).



Kind regards, Vriendelijke groet, Grüße
Wim Mossel

a.k.a. w.p.mossel at wanadoo.nl