[Dixielandjazz] Symphony players listening.

[Patrick Cooke]

Steve said:

>Stand close enough to the
>drummer so you can "hear" him/her.

I have never played with a drummer that I had to stand close to in order to
hear him.  If he's that soft, he's probably not playing loud enough.
    Just don't put him between me and the piano.  I like to hear the chords.
I have never had a problem hearing the drummer.
     Pat Cooke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:13 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Symphony players listening.


> Interesting conjecture that symphony players don't listen, except to the
> one next to you. How can that be? We've spent two days complaining about
> sound bouncing around stages, concert halls, and how distracting it is.
>
> Now, we think symphony players don't listen, they just read their part?
> How do they block out the unwanted sound? Randy, you are a symphony
> player can you enlighten me? Do you hear the total sound?
>
> I suspect one follows the baton for time, all the while hearing the
> total mix in some degree. OK then why can't OKOM bands simply follow the
> drummer for time? Seems very simple to me. Stand close enough to the
> drummer so you can "hear" him/her.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
>
> PS. The Philadelphia Orchestra under Eugene Ormandy had the
> "Philadelphia" sound. In talking with Glenn Dodson about it, he said
> that was because Ormandy had a "very indistinct beat via the baton". For
> example he said that at the beginning of a number Ormandy held his
> conducting hand close to his chest and then moved it horizontally
> towards the orchestra. This caused everybody to come in a slightly
> different times resulting in that "unique" sound called "Philadelphia".
> He also said it was difficult to figure out where up beats and downbeats
> were.  BTW, Glenn was Principal Trombone of the Orchestra for 28 years,
> and starting there under Ormandy about 38 years ago.
>
>
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