[Dixielandjazz] RE: Help update

Tue Jan 13 21:17:36 PST 2004

Sobbin' Blues alright! But the intro is original, or borrowed from somewhere 
else..... now can we have the complete #1, please, Dick?

Mike D.

>From: "Richard Broadie" <rbroadie at dc.rr.com>
>To: "Mike Durham" <mikedurham_jazz at hotmail.com>, <tony at tony-davis.co.uk>,   
>      <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>Subject: Help update
>Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:13:42 -0800
>
>
>I just uploaded the entire selection #14 that some have called Sobbin'
>Blues.  Let's see if you can identify it now, since you have more
>information to go by.  The site's at  http://desertjazz.org/clips/ .   I
>sincerely do appreciate your input on these tracks.
>
>I've added track 19 that I suspect may not really be Pete Daily.   At my
>age, my ears aren't all that great.  Maybe I sat too close to the drummer
>for too long?   What do you think?    Dick Broadie
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Durham" <mikedurham_jazz at hotmail.com>
>To: <tony at tony-davis.co.uk>; <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:03 AM
>Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Help?
>
>
> > Tony, it's the verse of Sobbin' Blues to my ears and those of two band
> > memebers I played it to (with no prompting). If only we had more of the
> > tune, this would speedily be resolved!
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> > >From: "Tony Davis" <tony at tony-davis.co.uk>
> > >To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Help?
> > >Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:20:59 -0000
> > >
> > >Number 14 is driving me crazy.  It's *not* Sobbin' Blues, is it, 
>surely?
> > >The
> > >16-bar strain is familiar to my aging brain, but certainly not the same
>as
> > >the
> > >June 1923 version of Sobbin' Blues by the KOCJB.  In any event, the
> > >introduction is *definitely* taken from "Don't Leave Me Daddy" written
> > >(words
> > >and music) by Joseph M. Verges in 1916 and used in "For Me And My Gal" 
>in
> > >1942 - it was recorded by a Condon band the same year.  Could the 
>16-bar
> > >strain be the verse?  (There's no verse on the Condon recording.)
> > >
> > >There's a Trumbauer version, with vocal, but the vocal style (an early
> > >attempt
> > >to reproduce instrumental solos vocally by a singer whose name I can't
> > >remember, but Norman Field would know) is so eccentric that it's
>difficult
> > >to
> > >tell whether there's a verse or not.
> > >
> > >No more time for research - I have to go and fix my daughter's computer 
>-
> > >but
> > >I'll be back.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> > >Tony.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Tony Davis
> > >Trumpet/Cornet
> > >Harlem/Kaminsky Connection/Zenith Hot Stompers
> > >Aston, Oxfordshire, UK
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Mike Durham" <mikedurham_jazz at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <cellblk7 at comcast.net>; <rbroadie at dc.rr.com>;
> > ><dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > >Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 12:17 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Help?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dick, Bob, other tune-sleuths: Number 14 is Sobbin' Blues. Number 3 
>is
> > >using
> > > > the second theme of Chimes Blues. I KNOW the first tune, it's a
>popular
> > > > ragtime number, but can't recall the title! If the brain kicks in,
>I'll
> > >post
> > > > the title. This selection shows what a wide and unusual repertoire
>Pete
> > >had.
> > > > A shame most of his recordings remain un-reissued (unless anyone 
>knos
>of
> > > > some CD's I don't know about?).
> > > >
> > > > Mike D.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Bob Romans" <cellblk7 at comcast.net>
> > > > >To: "Richard Broadie" <rbroadie at dc.rr.com>,"DJML"
> > > > ><dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Help?
> > > > >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 22:15:49 -0800
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi Dick...a couple of these I've heard on a Red Nickel's LP, but 
>the
> > >only
> > > > >one I remember right now is "Bluin' The Blues", # 16...
> > > > >Bob Romans
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Richard Broadie" <rbroadie at dc.rr.com>
> > > > >To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > > > >Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:45 PM
> > > > >Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Help?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi djmlers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I apologize for being off the list for the last few months.
>Between
> > > > >gigging
> > > > > > and doing engineer type gigs, I don't have time to even open up 
>my
> > >djml
> > > > >file
> > > > > > these days.  With 2,244 currently unread messages, perhaps it's
>time
> > >to
> > > > >hit
> > > > > > that delete button and start over once more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm doing a project for Lois Daily Sterns who's on this list.
>She's
> > > > >Pete
> > > > > > Daily's widow.  I have 18 songs by Pete that I can't identify by
> > >title
> > > > >that
> > > > > > I've sent to Lois and also Bob Ringwald.  Bob suggests that I
>enlist
> > > > >help
> > > > > > from the list so, at least for the time being, I'm back.  I hope 
>I
> > >can
> > > > > > figure out a way of staying with you for at least a while.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Clips from the songs I need identified can be heard at
> > > > > > http://desertjazz.org/clips/    Some are standard blues that may
> > >have a
> > > > > > title and one is to Bill Bailey changes that may have a 
>different
> > >title.
> > > > >If
> > > > > > you'd audition these tracks and send me a personal email 
>response,
> > >I'd
> > > > > > greatly appreciate it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know I'm late but  HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dick Broadie
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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