[Dixielandjazz] Re: Composer of "Cherry"

[Mike Durham]

Beats the hell out of me, Bill! I got the info from the Stomp Off catalog 
index, compiled with scrupulous care by my good friend Dick Baker of Falls 
Church, Virginia. Perhaps he'd like to comment..

Mike.

>From: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
>To: Mike Durham 
><mikedurham_jazz at hotmail.com>,<grant at grantsimpson.net>,<dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>Subject: Re: Composer of "Cherry"
>Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 10:56:22 +1100
>
>Beware! This email contains discographal/research information which, 
>judging
>from some recent comments, may cause offence to a majority of DJMLers.
>8>)   Just kidding.
>Dear Mike,
>I am intrigued by your reference to Ray Gilbert as a co-composer of
>"Cherry".
>Where did this info come from?
>Wasn't Ray Gilbert the man who put words (in the 1940s) to Kid Ory's
>"Muskrat Ramble"?
>The same lyricist (perhaps) who wrote "Zip-a-dee-doo-dah" for Disney's 1946
>'Song Of The South'.
>As you know, "Cherry" (with vocal) was first recorded by McKinney's Cotton
>Pickers in Chicago on 12 July 1928.
>The next version was made in New York for Okeh on 29 Sept 1928 by The Big
>Aces (a Dorsey Brothers contingent).
>The vocal is taken by McKinney saxophonist George Thomas and the tune was
>recorded following a regular Dorsey session. There are 2 issued takes of 
>the
>tune according to 'Rust'. (A and C.)
>Take A was issued on 78 and LP.
>Take C also appeared on English Parlophone R-365 and, allegedly, on IAJRC 2
>(an LP). I have checked my IAJRC version against other 78s and LPs and note
>that it does not differ in any way.
>I have a tape (just transfered it to CD ) of the Parlo 78 (-C) taken from a
>copy owned by my mate Tony Baldwin. This IS different, although not
>significantly. Minor phrases and notes throughout.
>Both takes are supposed to be on a German Village CD VILCD 014. I never 
>seen
>this and do not know under whose name it was issued.
>So far as I am aware there are no other reissues of "Cherry" by The Big 
>Aces
>on CD.
>Any comments?
>"Cherry" was not recorded again until the late 30s-early 40s with the
>following composer credits:
>Bob Crosby (Donald Redman) , Erskine Hawkins (Redman), Louis (Redman), Rex
>Stewart (Redman-Gilbert), Goodman (Don Redman). I have all these.
>So, it seems that lyricist Mr Gilbert had his name added in 1940. To a
>non-vocal version!
>Why?
>Very kind regards,
>Bill.
>

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