[Dixielandjazz] Re: DIXIELAND FESTIVALS

[Patrick Cooke]

Dan says....
   > such festivals are (still) increasing in number.

That could be one of the reasons some festivals are having a drop in
attendance.  It doesn't necessarily mean there's something wrong with your
festival.  It's competition.
Air fare, hotels, meals, festival fees (which have been increasing
markedly), make attending a festival a pretty expensive weekend.  How many
can do them more than a few times a year?  Do you eat at the same restaurant
everytime you go out?  Probably not.  I imagine people will follow their
favorite performers around, and possibly look for a festival that features
the ones they know.  You can find one or more festivals just about every
weekend.  Is the trad audience large enough to support all of them?....time
will tell.  It's going to take some savvy management to keep a festival from
losing money.  I would guess some of them will fail unless they have strong
support from the local business community.
       The increased number of festivals means you may have a new one you
can drive to, rather than fly; meaning you may give one up you previously
attended.
       Pat Cooke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Augustine" <ds.augustine at mail.utexas.edu>
To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:44 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re: DIXIELAND FESTIVALS


> Correction (faulty experimental design): i should have combined the
> August 2000 with the January 2000 total, as i did in 2004.  Doing
> that yields a total of 103 festivals in 2001, not 65.  Sorry.
> However, the principle still holds: such festivals are (still)
> increasing in number.
>
>      Dan
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> Steve and DJML--
>      Where's your evidence for your assertion that most dixieland-only
> festivals "are already dead or have changed their program to include
> other forms of music"?  You admit you don't go to such festivals.
>      I have evidence to the contrary:
>      I took a look at _The Mississippi Rag_ from December 2000 (the
> earliest issue i have) and counted 65 festivals for 2001.
>      Then i combined the list of festivals from the January and the
> August 2004 issues of MR (no duplicates) and the total was 125
> festivals for 2004.
>      Seems like dixieland-festivals are in fact NOT dying out, but are
> INCREASING in number, and i don't think the total almost doubled
> because a few of them started including other types of music.
>
>      Dan
>
> P. S. The exception does not "prove" the rule (or theory) in the
> sense that it validates it (how absurd), but in the sense that an
> exception 'tests' the rule, as in a 'proving' ground.
>
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> >Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 17:21:05 -0400
> >From: Steve Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> >Subject: [Dixielandjazz] DIXIELAND FESTIVALS
> >
> >To those that still think dixieland only festivals will continue to
prosper.
> >
> >Are you kidding? Most are already dead or have changed their program
> >to include other forms of music. Yes, there is an exception or two
> >but that only proves the rule.
> ><snip>
> >Cheers,
> >Steve Barbone
>
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