[Dixielandjazz] Mostly Self Taught Musicians

Stan Brager sbrager at socal.rr.com
Fri Sep 12 18:32:54 PDT 2003

I don't know about the other musicians you named, Steve, but Benny Goodman
doesn't belong on the list.

He began studying at a local synagogue where he was given his first
clarinet. When the synagogue stopped giving lessons, Benny's father sent
Benny and his older brothers to Hull House for additional lessons. While
still a teen, Benny took lessons for 2 years with Franz Schoep who taught at
the Chicago Conservatory of Music (among Schoep's pupils at the same time
were Jimmie Noone and Buster Bailey). Other teachers followed from time to
time. One of more notable teachers (and a nod to our British listers) was
clarinetist Reginald Kell.

Throughout Benny's career, he sought out teachers who could improve his

Stan Brager

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:35 AM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Mostly Self Taught Musicians

> In an off list conversation with Warren Vache Sr, (One of the great jazz
> players who knows more about the music than most of us) he suggested
> that my short list of mostly self taught jazz musicians was "too short".
> He is right and I bow to his wisdom. Said the maestro:
> "I  think  your "short  list"  is a bit too  short.   How  about Jack
> Teagarden,  Red Nichols, Frank Trumbauer,  Benny  Goodman,   Bobby
> Hackett,  Bud Freeman---and a  few  hundred  others?"
> By the way, Vache Sr. leads the "Syncopatin Seven" jazz band which is
> excellent. How many of us have bought his CDs? Do it now as the band is
> great and he is a giant of a player who should be recognized as a
> "National Treasure."
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
> PS. Yes, he is that old and he is the father of Warren Vache Jr, and
> Allan Vache.

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