[Dixielandjazz] Dadaism and early jazz

[Don Ingle]

Hey, Charlie -- C'mon --another damn Dada thread? Will it ever end?
Now, listen you old fart, stop dumping on the young turk. He's only doing
what we did at a similar youthful stage -- showing off all that we had
(thought we'd) learned without necessarily having put it to practical use.
He will in time, and he will learn just as we did -- often the hard way. But
those are the best lessons, anyhow. The youn'un is sure studying some of the
right stuff. Interpretations do differ with age, and so be it.
He's got enough problems anyway. He lives in the Detroit Metro area, a place
some of us who have acquired wisdom avoid like the plague -- or SARS. That
place has never been the same since Goldkette folded, the Graystone was
razed, Redman left for NY, and they dropped the hot house band on the Bud
Guest show. You were around back in those dark ages, and maybe even remember
when Tigers won games and they didn't fire basketball coaches with winning
records.
Maybe you even remember Baker's Piano Bar downtown when they hired piano
players that knew how to play with both hands and comp like hell on fire.
Logan -- Can't get a line on anything closer than 25 miles to Logan and with
Jean still in slow motion recovering from her broken ankle, looks doubtful
that we can make it. Besides, I no longer drive after drinking and I know
that if I got together with Gunter and we lifted some not-so-wee drams of
good Spey Malt and repeatedly shouted "Slainte," I would no longer be
breathalyzer proof for driving to a waiting bed. Next year -- God willing
and they return, we will book rooms in town early.
And now -- to burn off some other goodies I have dug out of my tape box.  I
have a cassette somewhere recorded at the Pontch in the '70's subbing with
Gene Mayl's band with Georg Brunies on trombone. Also some sets with Eddie
Miller and Maxine Sullivan.
Ah, I had some wonderful moments playing over my head!!
Sneezing and choking in allergy-rich No. Michigan, I remain your fiend and
mine,
Don Ingle

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Hooks" <charliehooks at earthlink.net>
To: "DJML Dixieland Jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Dadaism and early jazz


> on 5/30/03 12:37 AM, Rob McCallum at rakmccallum at hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > I think that we suspect that people who are
> > continually challenging themselves and are more in a state of flux and
who
> > embrace and encourage change lead more interesting lives, but 99% of
people
> > aren't willing to push out past the point where their comfortable
notions
> > will be challenged and perhaps jeopardized.
>
> Rob, please:
>
>     You are one of my favorite younger people.  So stop this and
distinguish
> more clearly:
>
>     There are most (I'll use your 99%) of the people who want to venerate
an
> image of the Virgin (or of Buddha, or of whomever) and about 1 %
("artists")
> who want to piss on this icon.  Usually that 1 % (or whatever percent you
> choose) is comprised of the young turks who know relatively little but
have
> enormous urgings to save the world and to assuage every grievance.
Knowing
> next to nothing about history and interested in even less, they love
> rhetoric and the sound of words.  They've seen movies.  They love
posturing,
> imitating photographs of adulated poor folk, hands raised and hungry
mouths
> open like birds.
>
>     Rob, there are reasons for our "comfortable notions."  Quite often
they
> are good reasons.  Its having been around for centuries is not a reason
for
> peeing on any idea; on the contrary, age may suggest fundamental truth.
>
>     Many young folk are growing old every day; that's how it works.  Why
> should we older folk, having passed through all the years and learned many
> of the lessons only now being presented to you younger folk, be fair game
> targets for your urine?  Why should we not be regarded as assets?
>
>     We've been through a lot; we've come out on this side; maybe--just
> maybe--we've learned something valuable and are willing to tell you about
> it. You should ask us.  You should listen and consider.  We may be, all of
> us, entirely full of shit.  But unless you listen to us and consider what
we
> are saying, then how the hell do you know?
>
> your fan,
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
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