[Dixielandjazz] "Fraud" as simeltaneous gigs

[Russ Guarino]

Here's my two cents worth:

It is almost impossible, when doing casuals, to always have exactly the same
musicians in the band.  There are too many other events on their lives that
will interfere.  Like a head cold, or out of town on vacation, or
conflicting gigs, or tied up with a sick mother, etc.

Sure, if you pay to see Tony Bennett, you will not see a substitute.  But I
bet that at any given time you will not see the same back up musicians at
his concerts. This is not a fraud. The band will sound the same because the
same music is used and directed the usual way.

Russ Guarino


Stephen Barbone wrote:

> Seems that some folks throw the word "fraud" around without really
> knowing what fraud is.
> To compare a simultaneous booking with serving Old Mr Boston instead of
> Chivas Regal is totally bogus and about the worst "example" one could
> give.
>
> Fraud is a crime, as well as the basis for civil action. Hey why don't
> we all get together and sue Preservation Hall for fraud? You know why.
> Pure and simple it is not fraud. And while we're at it, let's sue the
> estates of Lester Lanin, Howard Lanin, Gene Goldkette, Eddie Condon and
> thousands of other musos who have simulteanously booked bands, or put
> reserve players in a particular band version.
>
> Any band that goes by a "name" merely needs to deliver a band under that
> "name. Working bands do it all the time. Any band like Condon's, need
> only deliver "Condon". Whether the band has Edmond Hall or Peanuts Hucko
> or Bob Wilber, Cutty Cutschall or Lou McGarity, or J.C. Higginbotham,
> Billy Butterfield or Bobby Hackett or Wild Bill, etc., etc., makes no
> difference.
> If you are pissed that one or the other didn't show up the night you
> were there and it was fraud, you need to get a life.
>
> Do you think that a guy with an ego as large as mine would jeopardize my
> band name purity by delivering something other than "Barbone Street", or
> low quality music? If so, you are sadly mistaken. The success of Barbone
> Street, one of a very few "working" dixieland bands in the USA, if not
> the world, is due to the fact that we deliver more than the client
> bargained for and more that the audience thought they were going to get.
>
> I employ about 40 of the best jazz musicians in the USA to gig in
> Barbone Street every year.  I realize why that is difficult for many of
> you to understand because none of you who have so carelessly thrown the
> accusations around, are enjoying this kind of activity with the music.
>
> So, sit back, relax, and play where the people are. Listen and learn
> rather than sweating the small stuff and making ridiculous accusations.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
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