[Dixielandjazz] Chordal & Melodic Improvisation

[Patrick Cooke]

>>Really?  I can see what you are driving at  but does the audience,
expecting
`whatever` by `whoever` expect to get `My solo by Pat Cooke`<<

    Forgive me for making wild assumptions, but I assume that for
recognition purposes, the ensemble has already played a 'melody' chorus
    However, I do a feature (technical showoff) number : Stumbling...at a
pretty fair clip.  I play the last 4 bars as an intro (bass solo), followed
by a straight melody chorus accompanied by drums only on closed or
semi-closed hi-hat, followed by an improvised chorus (still just bass and
drums), followed by an ensemble chorus which leaves the last 4 bars for a
straight-melody bass solo with an ensemble 'button' on the end.


>>Another tune using the same chords may be a prerequisite of an
improvisation,
but surely there has to be some reference to the original melody.<<

Other than in your post, Pat; where is this written?
  There have been countless thousands of choruses played by outstanding
musicians that have absolutely no reference to the original melody.
   Pat Cooke


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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Chordal & Melodic Improvisation


> In a message dated 23/01/03 19:37:49 GMT Standard Time, patcooke at cox.net
> writes:
>
>  <<Creating you own entirely new melody is the ultimate improvisation.
>  It's simply matter of how creative you want to be.>>
>
> Really?  I can see what you are driving at  but does the audience,
expecting
> `whatever` by `whoever` expect to get `My solo by Pat Cooke`

> Another tune using the same chords may be a prerequisite of an
imrovisation
> but surely there has to be some reference to the original melody.
>
> I remember our leader once after turning down a request to play a
particular
> tune softened the blow by saying `Instead we are going to play Stardust,
and
> if you listen carefully you will rrealise that we are using a lot of the
same
> notes`
>
> <<  because most front line guys rarely tell the back row anything.>>
>
> Aint that the truth!
>
> Cheers
>
> PatL
>
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