[Dixielandjazz] Jim Beebe / Croakers

[John Petters]

>The back cover usually has at least one Art Council logo >and the
>personnel listing states "Minnie Bannister - Voice" rather >than 'Vocals"!
Oh yes I had completely overlooked Minnie Bannister - What a voice - What a
Bank Balance!!
Add to that the wonderfuil Darlene Edwards

John Petters
www.traditional-jazz.com
Amateur Radio Station G3YPZ
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jazzjerry at aol.com>
To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Jim Beebe / Croakers


> Kaye,
>
> I think you are being a trifle unfair to Jim Beebe. I like Jim, cannot
stand
> Cleo Laine's singing. I think she has murdered many a decent song in the
name
> of 'Art'. If you listen to her earlier recordings it is evident that she
is a
> very talented lady and could turn in a nice vocal performance. However
over
> the years her talents have been directed to this stange, and to my mind
> exceedingly unpleasant, 'vocalese' which to me absolutely ruins any song
to
> which it is directed. She might have a very wide vocal range but so had
Yma
> Sumac(SP) and she wasn't a jazz singer.
>
> Just in the same way as I cannot abide the upper note trumpet screeching
of
> the likes of Maynard Ferguson I avoid listening to Ms Laine's efforts
> particularly when the aim seems to be effect rather than substance.
>
> And Judy I certainly agree with you following statement, "The
>
> imitators sound just that; self conscious "ooblings" sometimes tacked on
to
>
> the end of an otherwise fairly traditional rendition.  If Cleo Laine is
>
> responsible for encouraging the imitators, she should be sentenced to a
week
>
> listening to out of tune trombones". There are some very good young
British
> jazz singers around at the moment such as Clare Teal, Joan Viscant, Diane
> Nahlini (plus yourself of course) but equally there are those who follow
the
> Laine path. Their albums are usually easy to spot when the arrive in the
> store. The back cover usually has at least one Art Council logo and the
> personnel listing states "Minnie Bannister - Voice" rather than 'Vocals"!
>
> It would seem that discussions on vocalists on the DJML usually manages to
> provoke more steam than almost any other topic and probably more than any
> other topic in jazz the liking or disliking of any particular singer is a
> very personal matter.
>
> Nearly as steamy as the string bass versus brass bass discussions of a few
> years ago!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jerry,
> Norwich,
> U.K.
>
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