[Dixielandjazz] Unwritten rules??/
Mike Marois
MikeMarois@HireLiveMusicians.com
Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:39:37 -0500
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Hey All;
There are two ways of looking at this situation. First off, at the
beginning of the organization, make it clear to the musicians that there are
certain does and don'ts on any public performance and any violation of the
don'ts could lead to termination. For instance when I played tuba for the
Hot Frogs, I would have never thought of pushing cards to anyone at the
function much less the manager or someone in charge. Any musician with any
ethics knows that the "end around" just aint cool.
Secondly, if your band is memoriable, the manager will want to book your
band, not Joe Schmoes band for a few bucks cheaper.
Mike Marois
Tuba/Computer Guru
http://www.TheDukesofDixieland.com
http://www.HireLiveMusic.com
http://www.MaroisApps.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dixielandjazz-admin@ml.islandnet.com
[mailto:dixielandjazz-admin@ml.islandnet.com]On Behalf Of Bob Romans
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:24 PM
To: DJML
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Unwritten rules??/
OK! A hypothetical situation...your band is booked at a local country
club. It pays $100 per man, and is a very nice gig!! Everything is going
great, the band is cookin'!
During the last break, you find the manager and let him know you've
enjoyed the gig, and you hope he'll call you again, so you hand him your
card, and he informs you that one of your sidemen, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
just gave him HIS card, and suggested he call HIM the next time if he wanted
a band since he, too, has a band.
What would YOU do?? Is this an ethical thing for a sideman to do? Would
you hire that sideman again for another gig?
This is purely hypothetical...it follows a discussion I had with a fellow
musician...as far as I know, it has NEVER happened to me! Just wanting to
find out the thinking of all of you old-timers out there, who have been
through all sorts of situations!
Is this an open market, where anyone can promote his band? I'm trying to
find out what leaders like Ringwald, Hooks, Barbone, Wiggins, and others
whose names I can't think of would do in a situation like this...
Thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions...
Bob Romans
Cell Block 7
Jazz Band
1617 Lakeshore Dr.,
Lodi, California, 95242
Phone.....209-368-3255
Cell...209-747-1148
Fax...209-368-3255
WebPages..click below
www.cellblockseven2002.net
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termination. For instance when I played tuba for the Hot Frogs, I =
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any ethics knows that the "end around" just aint =
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
dixielandjazz-admin@ml.islandnet.com=20
[mailto:dixielandjazz-admin@ml.islandnet.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bob=20
Romans<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:24 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
DJML<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Dixielandjazz] Unwritten=20
rules??/<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>OK! A hypothetical =
situation...your band=20
is booked at a local country club. It pays $100 per man, and is a very =
nice=20
gig!! Everything is going great, the band is =
cookin'!</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>During the last break, you =
find the=20
manager and let him know you've enjoyed the gig, and you hope he'll =
call you=20
again, so you hand him your card, and he informs you that one of your =
sidemen,=20
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ just gave him HIS card, and suggested he=20
call HIM the next time if he wanted a band since he, too, has a=20
band.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What would YOU do?? Is this =
an ethical=20
thing for a sideman to do? Would you hire that sideman again for =
another gig?=20
</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is purely =
hypothetical...it follows=20
a discussion I had with a fellow musician...as far as I know, it has =
NEVER=20
happened to me! Just wanting to find out the thinking of all of you =
old-timers=20
out there, who have been through all sorts of situations!=20
</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is this an open market, where =
anyone can=20
promote his band? I'm trying to find out what leaders like Ringwald, =
Hooks,=20
Barbone, Wiggins, and others whose names I can't think of would do in =
a=20
situation like this...</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks in advance for any =
thoughts or=20
suggestions...</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob Romans<BR>Cell Block 7<BR>Jazz =
Band<BR>1617=20
Lakeshore Dr.,<BR>Lodi, California,=20
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95242<BR>Phone.....209-368-3255<BR>Cell...209-747-1148<BR>Fax...209-368-3=
255<BR>WebPages..click=20
below<BR><A=20
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