[Dixielandjazz] APA asked to investigate mind control in destructive cults

[Burt Wilson]

Mistake or not, we can sure do without all that anger on this list!

Burt Wilson

On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:52:51 EST JimDBB@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 11/5/02 5:32:28 AM Central
> Standard Time, PLadd36932@aol.com writes:
> 
> 
> , JimDBB@aol.com writes:
> 
> << Cults of hatred  >>
> 
> Jim, just what is all that rubbish about?
> 
> As long as there are weak minded people who
> believe in astrology, furtune 
> telling, crystals,pyramidolgy etc., and are
> frightened to `break the chain` 
> of a chain letter because `ill luck` will
> follow there will be odd cults 
> dedicated to odd ends.There is no need to give
> these oddball groups an 
> importance they do not deserve by having `task
> forces`, `panellists` and 
> discussion goups of assorted `ologies`
> Usually these cults are a great benefit.To
> panellists who can get paid for 
> spouting tripe at conferences, and to  the
> person who starts them .
> Remember a good science fiction writer named
> Ron Hubbard? He described in 
> detail in an issue of Austounding Science
> Fiction exactly how to start a 
> cult, and then went out and did it.
> Scientology.
> There have always been cults. The `assassins`
> were a good example but you 
> have to be a bit careful, Christianity was a
> `cult` once.
> 
> I would be delighted to discuss this with you
> but what the hell has it got to 
> do with OKOM?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> PatL
> 
>    Would Pat L and others on the List
> please relax. The post that I sent on cult
> investigation was a mistake.  I goofed.
> That was intended for a newsgroup that I
> contribute to.
> 
>    To Pat who asserts that 'oddball
> groups should not be afforded any imporrtance I
> must say that I disagree.  The
> proliferation of destructive, subversive cults
> is one of  the most serious problems in
> society today.  We have had a succession
> of cult horrors which include, Jonestown,
> Heavens Gate, Solar Temple, Waco and on and
> on.  Our country right now is under attack
> from the world's largest cult, Islam.  The
> driving force behind Islam is an insane world
> domination scheme.
> 
>    Yes I remember well, L. Ron
> Hubbard.  I got sucked into his
> Scientology cult years ago and this is the
> reason that I am involved with anti-cult work
> now. Scientology also has an insane world
> domination agenda and is a nazi group in
> disguise. In addition to working with my Jazz
> group I worked days as a staff member with the
> Cult Awareness Network (CAN). I learned first
> hand of the devastation wrought by involvement
> in coercive controlling cults.  I talked
> with people from all over this country and
> beyond who called CAN for information on
> different groups.  Scientology spent $25
> million in tax-exempt funds to harass CAN into
> Bankrutpcy. CAN closed in 1996. Then through
> legal subterfuge Scientology bought the CAN
> assets which included the CAN name. 
> Scientology now operates the CAN hotline so if
> your son or daughter should get lured into a
> cult and you call CAN for information...guess
> who you will be talking to.
> 
> Make no mistake about it, religious insanity is
> on the rise and is manifesting through a web of
> cults. It is a sad truth that in this country
> almost anyone can call almost anything a
> religion and can quite easily get tax-exempt
> status from the IRS. The U.S. through the State
> Dept. is trying to force other countries into
> accepting American cults as genuine
> 'religions.'  The State Dept. under
> Clinton tried to force Germany into accepting
> Scientology as a real 'religion.' 
> Germany, through hard experience knows this
> cult for what it is.  Scientology has a
> web of covert operatives throughout the U.S.
> and Europe. One of their functions is to
> silence critics and former members. Other
> functions are to subvert government, media,
> business and religious groups. Recent reports
> stated that Scientology operative were trying
> to make deals with an Islamic extremist group
> in Germany.  They were offering business
> training in return for inroads into Turkey.
> 
> If I may say so, Pat, it is a good idea to get
> a handle on what different cults are up
> to.  Your future may depend upon it.
> 
> I apologize to the List for this
> diversion.  
> 
> Let the music ( Dixieland Jazz, of course )
> begin.
> 
> Jim Beebe