[Dixielandjazz] Arvell Shaw Obit

[Jim Denham]

Never mind whether it was "Loo-iie" or "Lewis": the man was a giant and 
a genius, and I think we can all agree on that. Have you guys seen the 
home-made footage of Louis and Lucille entertaining Peanuts Hucko and 
his wife (I think, on Peanuts' birthday)? It's a marvellous testimony to 
human solidarity, love and good humour.

Do I take it from what's been said, that the great Arvell Shaw is no 
longer with us?

Yours,

Jim Denham

In message <3DF61C04.E6774ED9@earthlink.net>, Stephen Barbone 
<barbonestreet@earthlink.net> writes
>I think what Arvell was really saying was that Louis did not correct people
>who called him Looie. But that it was mostly white people who used Looie.
>E.G. Ed Sullivan and others. I was introduced to Armstrong and Shaw by Alec
>Templeton (blind classical piano player) in the 50s.
>
>I said "Im glad to meet you Looie, er, Mr Armstrong." Armstrong smiled and
>said hello. Arvell Shaw drew me aside later and said something like "Don't
>call him Looie or Mr. Armstrong. Call him Satch, Pops or Louis (Lewis) but
>never Looie. I guess perhaps Shaw felt a young wannabe jazz player, trying
>hard to be hip, should be taught to use the name's Louis (Lewis)
>preferred.  In later years (1963?) on "Hello Dolly", Satch made it pretty
>clear to the world that he pronounced his first name as Louis (Lewis).
>"Hello Dolly, this is Louis (Lewis) Dolly".
>
>It's funny how guys in a band might use a wrong name, or spelling for years
>and never get corrected. For 3 years I misspelled Mac McClaeb's name on
>checks and emails as McCleab.  He never corrected my. Finally, another band
>member did, but only after 3 years. And for 8 years, one of our band
>members mispronounced and misspelled our bass player's name. Never a word
>from anybody, just a lot of laughter. That also happened to Bechet whose
>name was, at various times and places, pronounced as BeSHAY, BASH shay, and
>then when he got to France as BeSHET. (hard "T" on end like in Chet)
>
>Cheers,
>Steve Barbone
>
>Rebecca Thompson wrote:
>
>> That is funny he would say that... Not doubting what Arvell said.  BUT
>> when I talked with Peanuts Hucko and his wife Louise, they both said
>> Looie was one of the many names they used.    Most often, however was
>> Pops or Satch.  You would think that since Peanuts played in the All
>> Star group, he would have been told what name not to use.
>>
>> Sorry to hear about Arvell's passing.  We met him in New Orleans in 2001
>> and he was such a gracious person.
>>
>> Rebecca
>>
>> Original Message from Steve Barbone
>
>> Sad news. Arvell Shaw was the guy who when I met Armstrong in the mid
>> 1950s, gently told me not to call him Looie. (after I had just done so)
>> He said something like, you can all him Pops, or Satch, or Louis (Lewis)
>> but don't call him Looie. Only those who don't know him call him that.
>
>
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-- 
Jim Denham