[Dixielandjazz] Re: Trad jazz video

[G. William Oakley]

Hi Tom:
As the two old gentlemen who advertised whatever that wine cooler was some
years back, "We thank you for your support."
As for videos let me give it some thought.  Just as festival fans were
inveterate tapers of the music I am sure there must have been "inveterate
video-tapers."  Dottie Lawless might be a good source of people who taped
the St. Louis Festival, if she reads this post. There is a web site of a
festival fan who posted a lot of photos and I will try to find it.  I
thought I had it bookmarked but couldn't readily find it.  Will keep
looking.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Bengtsson" <dixielandtom@attbi.com>
To: "G. William Oakley" <gwilliamoakley@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: Trad jazz video


> Hello G., I have to agree with you on the Aspen JAZZ??? festival title.
> This is like the box of breakfast food that is  half empty and should
> not be allowed.  On to my subject.  I am an accomplished video hobbyist
> that has a large library of traditional jazz  shot in Western USA.  Do
> you know anyone that would like to exchange videos of your festival with
> some Western functions?  I have no commercial interest and have never
> sold a tape.   Tom Bengtsson
>
> "G. William Oakley" wrote:
> >
> > Mr. Barbone:
> > If you can pull yourself up from the floor and contain your mirth, you
will
> > note that the article refers twice to Jazz Aspen.  If I see a news piece
> > that refers to the Ford Motor company I might in my naivete think they
were
> > referencing a car company.  As to being "had by a knee jerk follow the
> > leader reaction" that's a bit of a stretch.  I originated the string and
> > suggested a response to the matter.  Further, anyone who knows me knows
that
> > I am anything but "a follow the leader type."  My career history shows
that
> > I started a theatrical enterprise that all "wiser heads" said would not
> > work.  When I retired it was grossing $6,000,000.00 per annum.  When I
took
> > over the Goldenrod in 1975 I acquired a jazz festival that was limping
along
> > and within three years it was a major cultural event in St. Louis and
> > garnering national recognition.  Following the leader,  not I.   Now
that I
> > have had my turn at being pretentious and tooting my horn I will return
the
> > pretension gavel back to its rightful owner.
> >
> > As a relative newcomer to the list,  I do not know what the paranoid
> > nattering regarding Beebe, Hooks and yourself is all about but from the
> > tenor of your response to my post I can guess.
> > Regards,
> > G. William Oakley
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Barbone" <barbonestreet@earthlink.net>
> > To: "G. William Oakley" <gwilliamoakley@earthlink.net>
> > Cc: "DJML" <dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 8:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz Aspen Snowmass Controversy
> >
> > > G. William:
> > >
> > > Well now, where in that article does it say it is a Jazz Festival?
Does it
> > not
> > > list the musicians who are appearing? Like Dylan and Willie Nelson?
Are
> > you
> > > saying that this article justifies the context of the letters that
were
> > > written, like false advertising, miss-leading people etc. You've been
had
> > by a
> > > knee jerk follow the leader reaction of people who told you on the
list
> > that
> > > this group was touting the Labor Day Festival as a Jazz Festival. That
> > > contention was simply not true. Get a grip.
> > >
> > > This has been a major music festival for the past 10 years or so. In
> > Summer
> > > they promote all types of music including lots of jazz. And they have
> > summer
> > > sessions to promote jazz among young, talented musicians. They are
quite
> > good
> > > at what they do, generating major corporate sponsorships as high as
> > $420,000,
> > > major season subscriptions to $2000 per person. The last thing these
folks
> > are
> > > worried about is a few misinformed OKOM "fans" who don't know how to
read.
> > >
> > > Who among the letter writers read this article and based their letters
on
> > it?
> > >
> > > Pretentious? Not me, I'm rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Steve Barbone
> > >
> > > "G. William Oakley" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Apparently you did not read the Denver article which set off the
> > brouhaha.
> > > > Here is the article:
> > > >
> > > > "All that Jazz Aspen
> > > >
> > > > Jazz Aspen boss Jim Horowitz is jazzed about the upcoming Labor Day
> > > > festival.
> > > >
> > > > "The advance sales are triple anything we've had in the past 12
years,"
> > says
> > > > Horowitz. In 2000, it was Lyle Lovett, Joe Cocker, Jimmy Cliff and
the
> > > > Allman Brothers taking the stage. This year, it's Phil Lesh, Macy
Gray,
> > Keb'
> > > > Mo', Bob Dylan, Willie Nelson and Nickel Creek.
> > > >
> > > > "The Dylan show on Sunday (Sept. 1) is the biggest one of all," says
> > > > Horowitz. "The venue holds 10,000, and we expect to sell out early
on
> > the
> > > > day of the show."
> > > >
> > > > It's a new venue this year - the base of Buttermilk Mountain, close
to
> > Aspen
> > > > and the action.
> > > >
> > > > And the action will be at Colony, a new restaurant/nightclub in town
> > where
> > > > Horowitz will hold court every night after the bands wrap. He's
invited
> > all
> > > > the musicians to sit in, so it should be a jam to remember."
> > > >
> > > > When I see it in the Denver Post I assume there is a certain amount
of
> > truth
> > > > to the article.  According to you we are supposed to go to their web
> > site
> > > > and verify.  If I had seen it on their site should I go to the Post
to
> > > > verify.  I don't think so.  Thus, your suggestion of reacting to a
> > hearsay
> > > > note is,  to put it mildly,  nonsense.  There is another word I
would
> > choose
> > > > but I won't.  It was a reaction to a legitimate newspaper source and
> > your
> > > > pretentious chiding cannot change that.
> > > > Regards,
> > > > G. William Oakley
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Stephen Barbone" <barbonestreet@earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 1:47 PM
> > > > Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz Aspen Snowmass Controversy
> > > >
> > > > > Well, we got hoisted on our own petards. Maybe all who wrote the
> > > > > festival producer rushed to judgement?  A look at the web site
reveals
> > > > > that Jazz Aspen Snowmass is not the name of the Labor Day
Festival.
> > The
> > > > > name of the Festival is something more exotic like "Labor Day
> > Festival".
> > > > >
> > > > > Jazz Aspen Snowmass is apparently a generic name for the producer
> > and/or
> > > > > venue.
> > > > >
> > > > > Note also that the description of this Labor Day Festival that
follows
> > a
> > > > > few paragraphs down, It quotes their site which says "ROCK, FUNK,
> > WORLD,
> > > > > SOUL, R & B, and more". There is no mention of jazz, or this being
a
> > > > > jazz festival.  NOTHING ABOUT JAZZ AT ALL.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, this poor bastard festival producer gets all these nasty
letters
> > > > > from people reacting to a hearsay note that a "Jazz Festival" is
> > > > > occurring in Aspen and it has no jazz. People who obviously did
not
> > read
> > > > > the information on the event web site.
> > > > >
> > > > > Me, I don't blame them for getting just a little pissed.
Especially
> > > > > since during the year they produce more than one jazz event, with
some
> > > > > big time jazz artists in performance.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are lucky that Charlie Hooks, Jim Beebe or I are not the
Festival
> > > > > Producers cause then we'd really see some tough love letters
back..
> > :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Steve (Trust But Verify) Barbone
> > > > >
> > > > > HERE IS THE FESTIVAL DESCRIPTION ON THEIR WEB SITE.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Description: The open air Labor Day Weekend music extravaganza
> > features
> > > > > four full days of rock, funk, blues, world, soul, R&B, and more.
Set
> > in
> > > > > the shadow of the spectacular "bowed roof stage", four acts
perform
> > > > > daily from noon ? 8:30pm. The dance-oriented event never skips a
beat,
> > > > > and attendees keep moving during intermissions in the 'JAS
Village',
> > an
> > > > > international bazaar of exotic food, crafts, drumming circles and
> > more.
> > > > > Between main-stage acts the music is continuous with bands at the
> > Janus
> > > > > Music Club throughout the day. The broad and diverse collection of
> > ages
> > > > > (12-60+) and music attract daily audiences of 8000+ from around
the
> > > > > U.S.A. and beyond..."
> > > > >
> > > > >
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