In a message dated 07/08/02 01:10:34 GMT Daylight Time, nancyink@ulink.net writes: << Hope I'm making myself clear and not offending my respected elders. (If so, I do humbly apologize.) >> Oh ! You kid you!. A snappy saying from before your time Nancy. Relax, we may be old grouches but we are not ogres. Cheers Pat