[Dixielandjazz] Offended by Dixieland?
Chuck Kercher
ekercher@tampabay.rr.com
Mon, 5 Aug 2002 23:03:13 -0400
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Amen, Amen, and Amen! chuck
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From: JimDBB@aol.com=20
To: dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com=20
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Offended by Dixieland?
In a message dated 8/5/02 9:23:25 AM Central Daylight Time, =
barbonestreet@earthlink.net writes:
Hear hear. Speaking of "Jazz Aficionados" aren't they just older =
people
who when they were young, like the audiences Charlie and I target, =
were
"just people looking for happy music . . . or party attendees..." =
That
was of course, before they became knowledgeable aficionados. :-)
Heck, I only know about 100 "knowledgeable jazz aficionados" and =
they
can't seem to agree on anything except the importance of their own
diverse and often conflicting opinions. Not a big enough audience to
target. And not much fun in a group by themselves.
Plain speak: If you are looking for intellectual music Dixieland =
ain't
it. What we would like to believe, as musically informed Dixieland
aficionados, is/was art form dixieland between 1920 and 1940, is/was
simply warmed over pop music done in a jazzy style. Real jazz, yes
before 1920 and after 1940. It's peak, Eddie Condon groups, 1940 to
1975, and the groups at the Metropole in NYC. (My opinion, maybe =
not
yours)
And those groups were fun. Biggest problem they had was that they =
were
in clubs where you couldn't dance. (That damn 20% tax on dance =
joints)
Those bands, black and white, were fun. The laughed, they hollered, =
they
had a good time, and the audience did too.
Now, we aficionados say, "keep the dancers in the back, we want to
listen and not be distracted". Are we kidding? Listen to what?
Cheers,
Steve Barbone
Excellent statement, Steve. thanks for writing and posting it. =
Especially the slot about the '100 knowledgeable jazz afficionados'. =
You hit that one right on the head.
Jim Beebe=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Amen, Amen, and Amen! =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 05, 2002 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Dixielandjazz] =
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Dixieland?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>In a =
message dated=20
8/5/02 9:23:25 AM Central Daylight Time, <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:barbonestreet@earthlink.net">barbonestreet@earthlink.net</=
A>=20
writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
TYPE=3D"CITE">Hear hear. Speaking of "Jazz Aficionados" aren't they =
just older=20
people<BR>who when they were young, like the audiences Charlie and I =
target,=20
were<BR>"just people looking for happy music . . . or party=20
attendees..." That<BR>was of course, before they became =
knowledgeable=20
aficionados. :-)<BR><BR>Heck, I only know about 100 "knowledgeable =
jazz=20
aficionados" and they<BR>can't seem to agree on anything except the=20
importance of their own<BR>diverse and often conflicting opinions. =
Not a big=20
enough audience to<BR>target. And not much fun in a group by=20
themselves.<BR><BR>Plain speak: If you are looking for intellectual =
music=20
Dixieland ain't<BR>it. What we would like to believe, as musically =
informed=20
Dixieland<BR>aficionados, is/was art form dixieland between 1920 and =
1940,=20
is/was<BR>simply warmed over pop music done in a jazzy style. Real =
jazz,=20
yes<BR>before 1920 and after 1940. It's peak, Eddie Condon groups, =
1940=20
to<BR>1975, and the groups at the Metropole in NYC. (My =
opinion, maybe=20
not<BR>yours)<BR><BR>And those groups were fun. Biggest problem they =
had was=20
that they were<BR>in clubs where you couldn't dance. (That damn 20% =
tax on=20
dance joints)<BR>Those bands, black and white, were fun. The =
laughed, they=20
hollered, they<BR>had a good time, and the audience did =
too.<BR><BR>Now, we=20
aficionados say, "keep the dancers in the back, we want to<BR>listen =
and not=20
be distracted". Are we kidding? Listen to =
what?<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Steve=20
Barbone</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR> Excellent statement, =
Steve. =20
thanks for writing and posting it. Especially the slot about the =
'100=20
knowledgeable jazz afficionados'. You hit that one right on the=20
head.<BR><BR> Jim Beebe</FONT> =
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