<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 16px;" class=""><span style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class="">There are two different disputes here. The "Dixieland vs. bebop/modern jazz" one goes back to the 1940s and is the one Gordon is referring to. Much of jazz in every style has power and beauty to me, from Bunk to Monk, between and beyond. The recent dispute I was talking about was about the word "Dixieland," not the music. The objection to it is that DIXIELAND has racist associations, calling up images of de land ob cotton and the Confederate South. Surely, no musician or band that doesn't want to have the Dixieland label should be respected.</span><span style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""> </span><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 16px;" class=""><br class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">This isn't just a matter of political correctness but a a true point of offensiveness to musicians who don’t want to be identified with "Dixie." Yet, the music that grew after the early foundational jazz—Condon, the Bobcats. Muggsy, Bonano, etc.—did in fact come to have that name for decades, as a point of history, and we ave no way sensible of denying that. The woed "Trad" has different history and and stylistic qualities; "Traditional jazz" harks back to foundational. </span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 16px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">There's no agreed on, easy of handling this. My preferred term, "post-foundational/pre-swing" jazz, captures it but is a mouthful and not likely to make it into common usage. When I continue to use the terms "Dixieland band./jazz./style,” I briefly acknowledge the problem and explain that I mean--well the post-foundational, pre-swing style that grew in the late twenties, and I give a few examples. </span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 16px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Charlie</span></div></div><div class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 18, 2023, at 10:16 AM, Gordon Pascoe <<a href="mailto:bryher@shaw.ca" class="">bryher@shaw.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">From a long-term lurker.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Charles Suhor mentioned about a “recent dispute” about no longer using the term “Dixieland.” For me there is no dispute whatsoever. Dixieland land style traditional jazz has real meaning. It is not “jazz” as played by the mis-named mis-named by “modern jazz” movement. Beloved by colleges and uni’s. Long solos to show off the virtuoso of varies band members. Frequently undanceable. The playing of “Standards” that are no longer recognisable. Using Big Band charts by (name the great Band Leader, say Glen Miller) but not playing his chart. The art of melody dead and buried by technical misuse and abuse of technique.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Dixieland and (being originally UK) “Traditional Jazz” are what I go to Festivals to hear. Organizers bring in other styles of bands and that add nice variety. But when the band line-up is swamped by non-traditional bands has always been the signal that this is a festival that in trying to bring in a new clientele are actually shooting themselves in the foot. Younger people will love genuine Dixieland if given the chance. A friend of mine went to San Diego to hear Dixieland and there was so much choice he and his girl friend ended up going to rooms that played some sort of “pop” that they could have heard back home thus hinting that htere is no need to go to the festival.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Dixieland has a place in the history of music and dance. It is unique. Astonishingly so. The tunes are magnificent. Keep playing them and enjoying them as Old Friends.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Sorry. I shall go back to lurking.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Gordon Pascoe<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Nanaimo, British Columbia.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Charles Suhor [<a href="mailto:csuhor@zebra.net" class="">mailto:csuhor@zebra.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>March 17, 2023 9:44 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gordon Pascoe<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dixieland Jazz Mailing List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Dixielandjazz] testing<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Charlie Suhor checking in here. I've been on DJML for decades and enjoyed participating in the substantive exchanges with Barbone, Marek, and others about genres, particular artists, eras, etc., but that seemed to run its course’ Some of y'all kept up with up with sharing lead sheets and band videos—fair enough, of course, but apparently not enough to reach out to the larger group. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I’ve kept my hand in as occasionally elsewhere, writing jazz book reviews and producing my late brother's 2-set jazz CD for GHB,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">Don Suhor: New Orleans Clarinet and Sax Virtuoso.</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>I recommend a new book from History Press by Sam Erwin, "Hidden History of Louisiana’s Jazz Age." I've sent a review to the excellent<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">Syncopated Times</i>, which has been receptive to my ideas about the recent dispute over banishing the term "Dixieland" from the jazz lexicon. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">As befits an octogenarian, I’ve moved to a retirement community in Spanish Fort, AL. It’s weird, man, being among all these OLD folks! As for myself, I prefer the the term "superannuated" to "old," and I'll smite you with my cane if you disagree.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">CS<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Mar 17, 2023, at 11:54 AM, Jean Marc Ternois <<a href="mailto:jeanm.ternois@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jeanm.ternois@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Hi Ron, <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">it could have been a good joke but in France the "x" is pronounced at the end of the word Aix, French is an unpredictable language ! Anyway I don’t know if anyone has ever made money with traditional jazz </span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">😂</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Jean-Marc<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Le ven. 17 mars 2023 à 15:40, Ron L"Herault <<a href="mailto:lherault@verizon.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">lherault@verizon.net</a>> a écrit :<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Hi Jean-Marc,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">When I read your message, it made me think of a good name for a jazz band, the “Pay Day Jazz Band.” In spite of my last name, my French Language skills are not great, but I think “Pay Day” and Pays D’Aix” should sound about the same!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Regards.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From cold New England, USA<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Ron L’Herault<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jean Marc Ternois <<a href="mailto:jeanm.ternois@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jeanm.ternois@gmail.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, March 17, 2023 4:21 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ron <<a href="mailto:lherault@verizon.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">lherault@verizon.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <<a href="mailto:dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Dixielandjazz] RV: testing<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Hello Listmates,</span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">I moved from Paris to the South of France (Aix en Provence) one year ago but still involved in musical works. </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">I run the "JAZZ CLUB DU PAYS D'AIX" and always working with the "PETIT JOURNAL" in Paris.</span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">I play with 5 bands and it takes a lot of time for me, but it's a real pleasure after the pandemic times.</span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">It's nice to receive news from you all !</span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">From France</span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Jean-Marc Ternois</span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div id="m_-5105012013950255076DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellpadding="0" style="border-style: solid none none; 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text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(68, 83, 234);" class="">www.avast.com</span></a></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Le ven. 17 mars 2023 à 03:17, John Schuricht <<a href="mailto:john@pvec.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">john@pvec.com</a>> a écrit :<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Still works for me!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">On Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 18:18 David Washburn <<a href="mailto:tootn4u@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">tootn4u@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">I was on this list some years ago. Didn't know it was still active. I'll watch for posts. Greetings & best wishes,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Dave in Dallas <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">On Thu, 16 Mar 2023, 7:19 pm Gary Lawrence Murphy, <<a href="mailto:garym@teledyn.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">garym@teledyn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">FB is so last decade<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Segoe UI Emoji", sans-serif;" class="">😅</span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">My mailing lists are all coming back online, I think folks are noticing how FB et al were walling them off; you can share an email with anyone you like!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Speaking of which, have you looked at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://jazztodon.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://jazztodon.com</a>? A project from some jazz journalists, covers all kinds of jazz but is just starting out so a bit quiet. No ads, no 'algorithm', I quite like it.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Currently at @<a href="mailto:Avalon@jazztodon.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Avalon@jazztodon.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>if you're on the Fediverse, you plunk that into Search and bobs yer uncle. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Kind of related to that, we launched<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://eighthstreetorchestra.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eighthstreetorchestra.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>as a WordPress site with the ActivityPub plugin that lets it interact with<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://jazztodon.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jazztodon.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>or folks on any other mastodon site. Time will tell if this is another fad, but so far so good!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">On Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 2:37 p.m. <<a href="mailto:jim@kashprod.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jim@kashprod.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="ES" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="ES" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="ES" class="">De:</span></b><span lang="ES" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jim@kashprod.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jim@kashprod.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:jim@kashprod.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jim@kashprod.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Enviado el:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>jueves, 16 de marzo de 2023 18:24<br class=""><b class="">Para:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Ron L"Herault' <<a href="mailto:lherault@verizon.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">lherault@verizon.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Asunto:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Dixielandjazz] testing</span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="ES" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Dunno if it is al FBs fault. We’ve just lost a lot of members, and particularly those that did the “jammin’” (not musically speaking, but with words). Marek, of course, was a great stimulator for discussion. I always laughed as he was very so much stuck in his ways. If it was the style he liked, then it was good. He was even that way when we discussed wines privately. And, Bob Ringwald used to keep things going. And, we had some Aussies that were very knowledgeable. I’m afraid I’m not great on the history of jazz discussions. I’ve just played anything that has swing, and never really went into where it came from. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">The Canal Street Jazz Band is still honking, albeit having lost a number of jazz sites during the pandemic, and to economics in general. We’ve got another gig this Sunday at a club that used to feature only jazz, but now has all kinds of live music with the occasional Jazz. Next month, a wedding, a gig at a Japanese restaurant (a know, weird!), and back to this no jazz joint (they have us in usually once a month). So, keeping fairly busy here in Madrid.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Jim<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="ES" class="">De:</span></b><span lang="ES" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ron L"Herault <<a href="mailto:lherault@verizon.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">lherault@verizon.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Enviado el:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>jueves, 16 de marzo de 2023 3:08<br class=""><b class="">Para:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jim Kash <<a href="mailto:jim@kashprod.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jim@kashprod.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">CC:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Dixieland Jazz Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Asunto:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Dixielandjazz] testing</span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="ES" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">It’s rather a shame how FB has taken over. It’s great for posting pictures but not easy to use for meaningful discussions.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Ron L<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jerry Gordon <<a href="mailto:jerrygordon@juno.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jerrygordon@juno.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, March 15, 2023 8:19 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ron <<a href="mailto:lherault@verizon.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">lherault@verizon.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <<a href="mailto:dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Dixielandjazz] testing<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">It's alive, but like most things our age, just barely!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Jerry Gordon<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Troy, NY<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 6:50 PM BobR <<a href="mailto:rhr261@yahoo.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rhr261@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;" class="" type="cite"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">wondering if this list is still active --- it's been awhile since i've seen a post<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">To unsubscribe or change your e-mail preferences for the Dixieland Jazz Mailing list, or to find the online archives, please visit:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Dixielandjazz mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">To unsubscribe or change your e-mail preferences for the Dixieland Jazz Mailing list, or to find the online archives, please visit:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Dixielandjazz mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">To unsubscribe or change your e-mail preferences for the Dixieland Jazz Mailing list, or to find the online archives, please visit:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Dixielandjazz mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">To unsubscribe or change your e-mail preferences for the Dixieland Jazz Mailing list, or to find the online archives, please visit:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Dixielandjazz mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">To unsubscribe or change your e-mail preferences for the Dixieland Jazz Mailing list, or to find the online archives, please visit:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Dixielandjazz mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">To unsubscribe or change your e-mail preferences for the Dixieland Jazz Mailing list, or to find the online archives, please visit:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Dixielandjazz mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</a></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>