<div dir="ltr"><div>OK,</div><div>Last..</div><div>I don't like Miles' playing - never had. Whenever I listen to my old Parkers, I have the feeling Miles spoils so many of them!</div><div>I am not a musician; never have been. A little older than you - 79. A jazz fan since age 13 or so. <br></div><div>Sure, I have limitations; as you've said - everybody does.</div><div>Anyway, those disputes are futile - I listen with my ears, the only pair I trust. <br></div><div>Cheers (just having pretty good Israeli craft beer),</div><div>Marek</div><div>P.S.</div><div>What I linked in your area, in addition to both natural and architectural beauty, was that every pub, even some pizza parlours, served local craft beers. I wish our pubs took such pride in our craft beers, some of which are really excellent.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 23:04, Andrew Homzy <<a href="mailto:andrew.homzy@gmail.com">andrew.homzy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Hi Marek,<div><br></div><div>As a 74-year-old well-educated professional musician who can read, write, play & produce anything from classical to jazz to pop,</div><div>I do lose patience with pompous amateurs who complain about things they don’t understand or respect.</div><div><br></div><div><div>I’m not patronizing at all. I’m just calling-out your musical limitations.</div><div><br></div><div>Everybody has them. Even me. I like so much of all music that it prevents me from focusing on just one kind -</div></div><div><br></div><div>There are great jazz musicians I don’t like, but I respect them musically. Miles Davis being one. While I respect Miles as a musician, I find his documented abuse of women and fellow musicians appalling.</div><div><br></div><div>Since you only reply to patronizing posts, I don’t expect to hear from you anymore on this topic.<br><div><div dir="auto" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br>Cheers,<br><br>Andrew</div></div></div><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 7, 2020, at 2:15 AM, Marek Boym <<a href="mailto:marekboym@gmail.com" target="_blank">marekboym@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello Andrew,</div><div>We are not the only people who disagree, and shall remain so. <br></div><div>Harry James was indeed a master trumpeter, and you are probably right - "
Were he alive today, he might have put out a big band hip-hop recording - he was commercial enough.</div><div>As to basic entertainment - I beg to disagree. I don't like the "showy" parts of live music, only honest playing. But I am old enough to realize the necessities of business. Working musicians cannot depend on jazz fans alone.</div><div>Your patronizing tone makes me wonder whether you are qualified to offer "any cogent assessment of jazz artists." To you, if one's opinion differs from yours, one has no idea what he (or she) is talking about. I have had the MISFORTUNE (yes, indeed!) to hear them all, except the really young ones - Miles, Brubeck, Ornette, Wayne Shorter, Coltrane- you name them. Some - before I had even heard the name of Wild Bill Davison. It took me quite a few years to separate the grain from the chaff, and whatever you say I am not going back to chaff again!</div><div>Had it not been for the patronizing tone, I wouldn't have replied to your post - I've been through this so many times before! Because there is room for all kinds in this wide world.<br></div><div>Stay healthy.</div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Marek<br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 02:02, Andrew Homzy <<a href="mailto:andrew.homzy@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrew.homzy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hello Marek,<div><br></div><div>While I appreciate your postings here, I find your musical limitations disqualify you from offering any cogent assessment of jazz artists who reach beyond rather basic entertainment.</div><div><br></div><div>Harry James was a master trumpeter and capable of a wide range of artistic expression.</div><div><br></div><div>His massive discography speaks volumes to his scope.Were he alive today, he might have put out a big band hip-hop recording ~~~<br><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 6, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Marek Boym <<a href="mailto:marekboym@gmail.com" target="_blank">marekboym@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 23:24, Stan Brager <<a href="mailto:stanbrager@gmail.com" target="_blank">stanbrager@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Harry James was not always associated with swing era jazz. In his later<br>
years, his music played more modern jazz </blockquote><div><br></div><div>I have never heard James live, but I've heard his later recordings. So, true, it was not always swing era jazz, but modern? I'd say sweet, even syrupy, but modern?</div><div>Many years ago a Canadian journalist was rather upset when we referred to Harry James as a jazz musician. "What? He and his terrible dance band trumpet?" Of course we right away started playing James' old records as a blindfold test. He inferred who it was from the context, but said he had never heard James playing like that. I ave some small (and big) band later recordings, with Willie Smith and Corky Corcoran, and they are anything but modern!</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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