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style="FONT-SIZE: large; FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif; COLOR: #000066">I was
fortunate to play with Ted's JRJB in the late 80's and early 90's. As some
of you may recall, he often used a second banjo player. My role as 2nd (tenor)
bjo player was to cover the rare banjo breaks and do a few vocals. We
stayed in touch for many years. Someone mentioned that Ted was a Xerox
salesman. I bought one from him and used it for many years!</DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: large; FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif; COLOR: #000066">I'm back in
Napa, CA after many years playing in the Cleveland, OH area.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 9:10 AM
<<A>dixielandjazz-request@ml.islandnet.com</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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Topics:<BR><BR> 1. Ted Shafer, RIP (Bob)<BR> 2. Re:
Ted Shafer, RIP (M J _Mike_ Logsdon)<BR> 3. Re: Ted Shafer, RIP (M
J _Mike_ Logsdon)<BR> 4. Re: Ted Shafer, RIP (Jim
O'Briant)<BR> 5. Re: Ted Shafer, RIP (Jim
O'Briant)<BR> 6. Re: Ted Shafer, RIP (domitype)<BR> 7.
Re: Ted Shafer, RIP (M J _Mike_
Logsdon)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:
1<BR>Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 10:47:23 -0700<BR>From: Bob <<A
target=_blank>shoring.b@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: <A
target=_blank>dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</A><BR>Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing
List <<A target=_blank>dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</A>><BR>Subject:
[Dixielandjazz] Ted Shafer, RIP<BR>Message-ID: <<A
target=_blank>141279FD-6F93-4BC8-BDA8-5928950653B7@gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=utf-8<BR><BR>Sad news,
indeed. <BR><BR>Ted Shafer first formed the Jelly Roll Jazz Band in Los
Angeles in 1959, with an 8 piece King Oliver/Lu Watters style 2 trumpet band.
Around the mid 1960?s he moved to the SF Bay Area and continued with an 8
piece band and often also had a subset of that band in a 5 piece
configuration. <BR><BR>Great guy! He will be missed for sure.
<BR><BR>Bob Shoring<BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:
2<BR>Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 14:49:07 -0700 (GMT-07:00)<BR>From: M J _Mike_
Logsdon <<A target=_blank>mjl@ix.netcom.com</A>><BR>To: DJML <<A
target=_blank>dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</A>><BR>Cc: Dixieland Jazz
Mailing List <<A
target=_blank>dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
[Dixielandjazz] Ted Shafer,
RIP<BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A
target=_blank>972882909.6062.1565300947393@wamui-mouse.atl.sa.earthlink.net</A>><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR><BR>I will never forget the first time I met
Ted. It was over the phone, and it was (I think) 1995 or so. I'd
gotten my hands on one of his fliers advertising his currently available Merry
Makers Record Company CDs, and called him. It went something like
this:<BR><BR>"Hello?"<BR>"Hello! Is this Mr Shafer?"<BR>"No, Mr Shafer's
my father and he's dead. My name's Ted. What's yours?"<BR><BR>M J
(Mike) Logsdon.<BR><BR>"Aaugh[.]" -- Charles Brown.<BR>"Avoid dull needles and
use a soft cloth." -- E Kovacs.<BR>"Because that's the kind of guy, I'm." -- C
Reiner, "Your Show of Shows", skit: "From Here to
Obscurity".<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:
3<BR>Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 15:42:56 -0700 (GMT-07:00)<BR>From: M J _Mike_
Logsdon <<A target=_blank>mjl@ix.netcom.com</A>><BR>To: DJML <<A
target=_blank>dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</A>><BR>Cc: Dixieland Jazz
Mailing List <<A
target=_blank>dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
[Dixielandjazz] Ted Shafer,
RIP<BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A
target=_blank>929926399.6550.1565304177215@wamui-mouse.atl.sa.earthlink.net</A>><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR><BR>Is there an obituary yet? (Maybe too
soon.) Please, once someone knows of one, post link
here.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>M J (Mike) Logsdon.<BR><BR>"Aaugh[.]" -- Charles
Brown.<BR>"Avoid dull needles and use a soft cloth." -- E Kovacs.<BR>"Because
that's the kind of guy, I'm." -- C Reiner, "Your Show of Shows", skit: "From
Here to
Obscurity".<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:
4<BR>Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 04:25:41 -0700<BR>From: "Jim O'Briant" <<A
target=_blank>jobriant@garlic.com</A>><BR>To: "'M J _Mike_ Logsdon'" <<A
target=_blank>mjl@ix.netcom.com</A>><BR>Cc: 'Dixieland Jazz Mailing List'
<<A target=_blank>dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
[Dixielandjazz] Ted Shafer, RIP<BR>Message-ID:
<003a01d54ea5$2dd34ad0$8979e070$@<A href="http://garlic.com" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>garlic.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>Mike L.
wrote:<BR><BR><BR><BR>* I will never
forget the first time I met Ted. It was over the<BR>phone, and it was (I
think) 1995 or so. <BR>* I'd gotten
my hands on one of his fliers advertising his currently<BR>available Merry
Makers Record <BR>* Company CDs, and
called him. It went something like
this:<BR><BR><BR><BR>*
"Hello?"<BR>* "Hello! Is this Mr
Shafer?"<BR>* "No, Mr Shafer's my father
and he's dead. My name's Ted. What's<BR>yours?"<BR><BR><BR><BR>In
early 2007, I'd been playing tuba in Ted Shafer's Jelly Roll Jazz Band<BR>for
a little less than a year. I was toying with the thought of starting a<BR>band
of my own. So during a break at one of our weekly gigs, I went to Ted<BR>and
said, "I'm thinking of staring my own Trad Band down in Gilroy. What<BR>advice
do you have for me?"<BR><BR><BR><BR>Immediately, he replied, "Have your
G-D------ head examined!"<BR><BR><BR><BR>We both laughed, and then he
continued, "Really. Think about whether you<BR>want all the work and headaches
that you get when you lead a jazz band. But<BR>if you think about it
seriously, and still want to do it, then hire the very<BR>best musicians you
can find."<BR><BR><BR><BR>Jim O'Briant, Gilroy, CA<BR><BR>Tuba / Leader, The
Zinfandel Stompers Vintage Jazz Band<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--------------
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5<BR>Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 04:32:15 -0700<BR>From: "Jim O'Briant" <<A
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Jazz Mailing List <<A
target=_blank>dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
[Dixielandjazz] Ted Shafer, RIP<BR>Message-ID:
<004f01d54ea6$185c2f90$49148eb0$@<A href="http://garlic.com" rel=noreferrer
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charset="utf-8"<BR><BR>Bob S.
wrote:<BR><BR><BR><BR>* Ted Shafer first
formed the Jelly Roll Jazz Band in Los Angeles in 1959, with an 8 piece
<BR>* King Oliver/Lu Watters style 2
trumpet band. Around the mid 1960?s he moved to the SF
<BR>* ay Area and continued with an 8
piece band and often also had a subset of that band in
<BR>* a 5 piece configuration.
<BR><BR><BR><BR>When Ted hired me in 2006, it was for the smaller band, which
was 6 pieces. The regular players
were:<BR><BR><BR><BR>* Earl Scheelar,
cornet (doubling clarinet)<BR>* Pete Main,
clarinet (doubling sax & occasional other
instruments)<BR>* Glenn Calkins, trombone
(doubling clarinet)<BR>* Jim O?Briant,
tuba<BR>* Ted Shafer, Banjo &
Leader<BR>* Tom Barnebey,
Piano<BR><BR><BR><BR>I?m second guessing myself regarding Tom on Piano. I
think he was the regular pianist then. If not, he still played with us
often.<BR><BR><BR><BR>The larger band at that time, and up till Ted retired,
was 9 pieces; the personnel varied a lot
more:<BR><BR><BR><BR>* 2
Cornets/Trumpets<BR>*
Reeds<BR>*
Trombone<BR>*
Tuba<BR>*
Banjo<BR>*
Piano<BR>* Drums<BR><BR><BR><BR>Jim
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6<BR>Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 07:59:52 -0700<BR>From: domitype <<A
target=_blank>domitype@gmail.com</A>><BR>Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
<<A target=_blank>dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
[Dixielandjazz] Ted Shafer,
RIP<BR>Message-ID:<BR>
<CAO_WAAUg2enZJTfMOZHt1U0q_0kEZYTg6jJzvuO63gRMSba4=<A
target=_blank>A@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="utf-8"<BR><BR>Ted called in to my Sunday morning show on KFJC from
time to time with SF<BR>Jazz stories and he would send copies of his CDs.<BR>I
filled-in on tuba more than a few times and always found his band fun
to<BR>play with, well led...<BR><BR>Dave Richoux<BR><BR>On Friday, August 9,
2019, Jim O'Briant <<A target=_blank>jobriant@garlic.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR>> Bob S.
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> - Ted Shafer first
formed the Jelly Roll Jazz Band in Los Angeles in<BR>>
1959, with an 8 piece<BR>> - King Oliver/Lu Watters style
2 trumpet band. Around the mid 1960?s<BR>> he moved to
the SF<BR>> - ay Area and continued with an 8 piece band
and often also had a<BR>> subset of that band
in<BR>> - a 5 piece
configuration.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> When Ted hired me in 2006, it
was for the smaller band, which was 6<BR>> pieces. The regular players
were:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> - Earl Scheelar,
cornet (doubling clarinet)<BR>> - Pete Main, clarinet
(doubling sax & occasional other instruments)<BR>> -
Glenn Calkins, trombone (doubling clarinet)<BR>> - Jim
O?Briant, tuba<BR>> - Ted Shafer, Banjo &
Leader<BR>> - Tom Barnebey,
Piano<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> I?m second guessing myself regarding Tom
on Piano. I think he was the<BR>> regular pianist then. If not, he still
played with us often.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> The larger band at that
time, and up till Ted retired, was 9 pieces; the<BR>> personnel varied a
lot more:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> - 2
Cornets/Trumpets<BR>> - Reeds<BR>> -
Trombone<BR>> - Tuba<BR>> -
Banjo<BR>> - Piano<BR>> -
Drums<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Jim O?Briant, Gilroy, CA<BR>><BR>>
Tuba / Leader, The Zinfandel Stompers Vintage Jazz
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Logsdon <<A target=_blank>mjl@ix.netcom.com</A>><BR>To: DJML <<A
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Mailing List <<A
target=_blank>dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
[Dixielandjazz] Ted Shafer,
RIP<BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A
target=_blank>2089643050.2174.1565366011672@wamui-mouse.atl.sa.earthlink.net</A>><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR><BR>If anything, Ted knew the "sound" he
wanted. And like most individualists, though he modeled his bands after
others that had gone before, his always had its own particular
sound.<BR><BR>In Ted's case, that sound was what it was; maybe not what one
was looking for, per se, but, as the musicians nearly to a person say, fun to
play with.<BR><BR>His crowning glory (he told me this, so I'm not making it
up) was his one and only Stomp Off CD. It was often heard between sets
at festivals.<BR><BR>His other crowning glory, of course, was Merry Makers
Record Company. Turk has some interesting comments in "Just for the
Record". My first taste was his first CD, of the 1966 8-piece So Cal
iteration. Truly iconic, that CD (and/or LP; I only know of the
CD).<BR><BR>The last time I met up with Ted, via the smaller band iteration, I
don't recall the year, but maybe Mr O'Briant can dredge it up, was, oh, about
a decade or so ago, at the Monterey Hot Jazz Society's monthly meeting.
The cornet was Ted Thomas of Gremoli fame, that much I know. What sticks
out for me from my talking with Ted that day was our discussion of Jasmine's
complete Watters' Hambone Kelly's recordings, and the fact that, when all was
said and done, the LPs they used to produce said CDs were Ted's Merry Makers
LPs, as no other iteration had used that exact "stacking order". (I had
my own tale to tell him, ie, that after Jasmine had put out volume 1 they told
me there was no way to put out a volume 2 that contained the complete
Hambone's output, I told them "But I did it, privately for my own use.
There's no way 2 volumes can't contain the complete output." A month or
so later, I get, in the mail, a volume 2, finishing the complete output,
totally free of charge! Needless to say, Ted liked that
story!)<BR><BR>RIP Ted. A very unique person. How many of you know
that he was also a retired Xerox repairman? (Not counting whoever it was
who told me, that is!)<BR><BR>M J (Mike) Logsdon.<BR><BR>"Aaugh[.]" -- Charles
Brown.<BR>"Avoid dull needles and use a soft cloth." -- E Kovacs.<BR>"Because
that's the kind of guy, I'm." -- C Reiner, "Your Show of Shows", skit: "From
Here to
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