<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Cy worked with bands of his own as well as with other bands. I, by the way, did not like everything he did - too much "show" music (I don't mean "showy," but rather music from musicals, with singers and all).<br></div>He definitely remained a Dodds man, but should that disqualify him? He did not copy Dodds - he played with a similar style, which I, for one, consider very commendable, and sounded original (I can mention some British players who do so even now, and do so extremely well; I am less conversant with contemporary American scene).<br></div>Since you know how I feel about Getz (De Franco is more complicated), I consider that part of your letter to be a provocation, and I refuse to be provoked.<br></div>Cheers<br><div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 June 2017 at 18:35, Steve Voce <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stevevoce@virginmedia.com" target="_blank">stevevoce@virginmedia.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Well, Maryk, I hope you enjoy today, for it is the first occasion
that I remember having to give best to you!<br>
I had thought that Cy Laurie, who gave up playing jazz in 1960 when
he went off to India to try and sort himself out, had died late in
that decade. Looking him up today I find that he survived a lot
longer. I knew that he came back,though he didn't seem to work as
much, which is probably why I never heard of his later sporadic
efforts (there was no reason why I would have been interested). Did
he stop being a Dodds-copyist by that time? I cannot tell. But
judging by the yardstick that he still worked with Beryl Bryden in
the '90s, I imagine that he remained in his Dodds jump-suit.<br>
I look forward to being amazed when I find out that I am wrong and
that he in fact became a disciple of Buddy De Franco and collector
of Stan Getz records. No doubt you will disabuse me.<br>
The other thing I had forgotten was that I first met Fred Hunt when
he shone like a pillar of fire in the night of the Cy Laurie Four -
no doubt he was the reason I went to see it again.<br>
Steve Voce<br>
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<p>I went to concerts in the early days when Cy Laurie
had his 'Four'. One of his four was Beryl Bryden and
another was a rather good trumpet player, whose name I
can't remember (it was in the Fifties). I think it was
Les.<br>
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<p>With regard to my being rude about Cy's clarinet
work: I remember him as a very docile but enthusiastic
fellow. But I was unhappy with his playing nothing
but the closest copy that he could get to Johnny
Dodds. So I didn't like his playing and implied so in
my e-mail. </p>
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<div>"Implied," Steve?<br>
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<div>The language you used was hardly that!<br>
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<div>So basically you have not heard Cy since the beginning
of the '50's, you are not aware of his development, but
you pass judgement, render a severe sentence, and call
that "implying."<br>
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<div>Cheers<br>
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<div>The trumpeter, by the way, was Les Jowett.<br>
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<p> I didn't like the singing of Vera Lynn or Bill Haley
and the Comets. Or Beryl Bryden, come to that. Henry
VIII was regarded as a great king, but I didn't like
him. <br>
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<p>Am I not allowed to say so?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Steve<br>
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24/06/2017 23:00, Bill Haesler wrote:<br>
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<div class="m_-6033366082804229587h5">Steve Voce <<a href="mailto:stevevoce@virginmedia.com" target="_blank">stevevoce@virginmedia.com</a>>
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<p>You shouldn't leave out the great
Archie Semple, and Acker Bilk was ten
times the jazz musician your pal Cy
Laurie was! Not to mention any of the
fine modern clarinettists or the
extremely skilled Sid Phillips. There
are many more in your field, of course,
who it would pain to omit - Christie,
Turner, the ci-devant Danny Polo....</p>
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Dear Steve,</div>
<div>Danny Polo?</div>
<div>Born in Clinton, Indiana, died in Chicago,
Illinois (1901-1949) and worked and recorded in
England in the 1930s.</div>
<div>Why include him on a list of British jazz
revival clarinettists?</div>
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<div>And why single out Cy Laurie for unnecessary
insult? </div>
<div>("Cy Laurie, on the other hand, was a nutter
who genuinely believed that he was the
reincarnation of Johnny Dodds. He might have got
away with that if he had been as good as Johnny
Dodds, but unfortunately he was only as good as
Cy Laurie.”) </div>
<div>Cy was a very popular Trad jazz pioneer who
contributed to its success, inspired and
captivated by Johnny Dodds’ playing.</div>
<div>I found Cy to be a passionate and friendly
jazzman, and felt privileged to play with him
and pianist Johnny Parker on several of my
visits to Pomgolia. </div>
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<p>But don't let us start making lists
again. It's non-productive, like stamp
collecting.<br>
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<div>In that, I wholehearted agree with you.</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Bill.</div>
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