<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38000" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38145">Of the Joe Turner discography I am well aware . . .</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38382"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38145">ta!</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38384"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38145"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38385"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38145">I did find an excellent Joe Turner LP on the Chiaroscuro label, which is I think from USA -- I got mine in Canada ..</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38144"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38143">And GHB/ Jazzology has reissued the sometime English 77 label LP, a private tape made to solace Johnny Simmen <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38105"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38106"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38142">Was the PABLO one issued in USA? Half of it was recorded over (T)here (T or no T depending on where you are). <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38212"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38142">There is the Washboard band on YouTube, <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38207"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38142">and those delectable items with Albert Nicholas under an Adrian Rollini banner... <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38206"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38142"></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38001"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38289">Rather a lot in Europe, from Prague to London ...</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38288"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38287">I do remember one of his compositions is pretty well identical to ERROL'S BOUNCE <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38335"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38334" dir="ltr">ttfn, Marek!!!</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38397">Robert<br></div><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38009" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38008"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38007"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38006"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38010" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38122" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Marek Boym <marekboym@gmail.com><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38261"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38260">To:</span></b> ROBERT R. CALDER <serapion@btinternet.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 20 June 2017, 20:15<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38209"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38208">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Dixielandjazz] Joe Turner (was two comments -- and swing)<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38011"><br><div id="yiv0380751075"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38013"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38012"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38141">Hello Robert,<br></div>The pianist Joe Turner recorded very little in the US. He spent most of his life and cut most of his records in Europe; hence, those records were not widely distributed in the States. Classic Jazz issued one (perhaps more), but it was originally made for the French Black&Blue label.<br></div>Cheers<br><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38021"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38020"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38019"><div class="yiv0380751075gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38018"><br><div class="yiv0380751075gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38017">On 20 June 2017 at 20:35, ROBERT R. CALDER <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:serapion@btinternet.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:serapion@btinternet.com">serapion@btinternet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv0380751075gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38016"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38015"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_38014"><div id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_17347"><span><br></span></div><div><span></span></div><div id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19756"><span id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19755">I refer to the English saxophonist/ writer etc. Benny Green's citation of the piano-playing Joe Turner</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19758"><span id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19757">(whom one unfortunate on Amazon thought had recorded little. I commented otherwise!)</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19760"><span id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19759">And Joe was on a TV show with Oscar Peterson (which I have never seen)</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19762"><span id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19761">and he said that when he was a lot younger, people had a lot more fun with music. <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19763"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19765"><span id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19764">Dammit if Buck Clayton could swing and sound happy enough on a gig I saw on TV, which I have on a hissy audio tape, and in the second half of the concert Humphrey Lyttelton had to take over (Buck was in physical pain with lip trouble, and doubtless his soul hurt too!) what is amiss with a smile? <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19767"><span id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19766">I am not talking about for instance a Clark Terry session of supposedly "happy jazz", which was plain banal, oppressively lightweight. <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19768"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19770"><span id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19769">I remember the boogalooing youngsters of a New Orleans marching band. They swung. And so did the German folks playing the same stuff in the same way when I heard them in the street in Konstanz in Germany (about a block away from where I heard a strolling Italian clarinetist in summer playing Bechet tunes unaccompanied. What ambitions have musicians?<br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19771"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19773"><span id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19772">Probably part of the US problem is a tendency to classify music not in musical terms but according to a crude and uninformed approximation to chronology. The same crap as induced some young ignoramus to conclude that since Charlie Parker was a player his father admired, Parker must have been "a Dixieland saxophone player".<br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19775"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19777"><span id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19776">But there's no obligation to imitate Parker all the time, Sonny Stitt swung more, and perhaps now rather than the stiltedness of people trying to play jazz long, long ago, without quite the grasp required by an idiom new to them, and maybe most folks, younger musicians might be strung up on noise and strident intensity. <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19977"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19921"><span id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19920">have fun!<span class="yiv0380751075HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></span></div><span class="yiv0380751075HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19919"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_19922"><span id="yiv0380751075m_-757243921703258907yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497975664588_20132">Robert R. 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