<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yes, Bert, I agree that Rollini was a great, as you showed so well. But he’s been widely acknowledged. Rushton isn’t pivotal, but he hasn’t been given his due. Maybe I just happen to like his playing more than others, in a quirky judgment call. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Charlie</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:06 AM, Bert <<a href="mailto:mister_bertje@hotmail.com" class="">mister_bertje@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Hello Charles,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Some very good points. </div><div class="">Joe Rushton of course was a very fine player. I have written evidence where he stated very clearly that Adrian Rollini was his example. (Got some letters from Rushton's son) </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To make this a little bit more interesting:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- Harry Carney stated in 3 different interviews that Adrian Rollini was his idol. (One of these interviews done by Valerie Wilmer, you can check online) </div><div class="">- In Jazz Masters of the '30 , Rex Stewart is very clear , that Rollini also had a big impact on Coleman Hawkins. (Rollini's best jazz solo is on San, two days before Hawkins first good solo on Stampede, San is a better solo) </div><div class="">- Very late in life, Gerry Mulligan stated in two different interviews, that Adrian Rollini most certainly had a huge impact on his playing, not through records, but through radio. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rollini , and Bechet who played totally different, were the first to record Jazz solos on a saxophone. </div><div class="">Although Rollini recorded many dance records, between 1923 and 1928 there were also a lot of jazz tracks involved. </div><div class="">The best of these, like the 1926 record of San, and Milenburg joys from 1925 have solos that are as original as it gets, and have tremendous swing. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Another very interesting point:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- in Gunther Shullers book, early jazz, one of Armstrong favourite phrase ending devices is mentioned. </div><div class="">What is not mentioned is that Rollini allready recorded exactly this phrase ending in January 1924, that is 8 months before Armstrong came to New York in the first place and, (I checked all the records,) a year before Armstrong recorded it himself. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rollini was the most creative and original developper of bass lines, until Jimmy Blanton came along in 1940. Check Tiger Rag, f.i.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">He also recorded on vibraphone , before Hampton and Red Norvo did (And with 4 mallets instead of the 2 hamp used)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Then in 1927 started recording sweet solos, many years before Tommy Dorsey would become famous with this device.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rollini also used multiphonics often and sometimes toptones. John Coltrane got fame or credit for this, sadly it is totally ignored that Rollini was the first to record multiphonics on a saxophone, also ahead of any classical player. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kind regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bert Brandsma</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div style="" class=""><div class=""><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 1192.65625px;" class=""><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Charles Suhor <<a href="mailto:csuhor@zebra.net" class="">csuhor@zebra.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:58 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Bert Brandsma<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dixieland Jazz Mailing List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Dixielandjazz] Buddy Bolden, was Armstrong-Eldridge</font><div class=""> </div></div></div><font size="2" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><div class="PlainText">Good points, Anton. Lineages are “soft,” for sure. Some players state who influenced them. ...................., Joe Rushton, (Ed Blackwell), and a few others.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></span></font></div></div></div><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; 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