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From: Jim Martinez <itms@jimmartinez.com>
Subject: Re: The Forgotten Bix?
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Phil,

That was one of the most craziest responses I have ever read. I really can=
=B9t
tell what is tongue-in-cheek or not!! I happen to be an earnest admirer of
Louis Armstrong and I disagree with your comment about why we admire him. I
only make this point because it=B9s the same reason why people should admire
Bix or any other musician: their complete body of accomplishments. It=B9s th=
e
same reason I admire Oscar Peterson, Mozart, or Willie Mays for that matter.

Anyhow, I read your comments with interest, so thanks for the smile. By the
way, Shakey=B9s started here in Sacramento...but you probably knew that.

Take care,
--=20
Jim Martinez
http://www.jimmartinez.com




on 3/17/03 6:51 PM, Phil Pospychala at bixguy@hotmail.com wrote:

> Are we surprised?  I think not.  Isn't Davenport talking about a museum wh=
ere
> Bix is only a part of the Quad Cities musical heritage?  Fear not!  We kno=
w
> Louis Armstrong is an icon who never has to go through a neglected birthda=
y.
> However, who among his earnest admirers really knows and loves the real re=
ason
> for Armstrong's greatness; his work with King Oliver, Fletcher Henderson a=
nd
> his Hot Fives and Sevens.  When one hears these, there is no question why
> Louis should always be an icon.  However,    the real world has him as an=20=
icon
> for other (lesser) reasons.   My point?  Most real world people have no
> interest in what somebody played in the 1920s.  It's Shakey's Pizza razzma=
tazz
> music to them and  background music for silent films and cartoons.    Now=20=
that
> Fred Turner has Clara Bow porking (No offense to Iowa, folks) Bix and gett=
ing
> him to climax, in his novel, 1929,  can cannonization from the real world=20=
be
> far behind?  I say we look forward to 3003 and note if there has been a sh=
ift
> in real world thinking.  Keep the faith!  Meanwhile, can we all take heart=
 in
> knowing we have 65 and 70 year old fools trying to play a 25 year old man'=
s
> music and can we also keep our chins up when 65, 70 and 80 year old men li=
te
> candles at the moment of his birth?   Now, that's weird!  Take that, real
> world!  We don't give a shit what you think or what we think!  Happy St.
> Paddy's Day.
>=20
>> >From: "rich johnson"
>> >Reply-To: bixnme@excite.com
>> >To: Hawkpshaw@aol.com, Edmetzsr@aol.com,
>> jstgtrplayer@netscape.net,cgibbons@davenportone.com, LeslieMRag@aol.com,
>> donpub@charter.net,bixguy@hotmail.com, nvickers1@cox.net, Easywri571@aol.=
com
>> >CC: elbeba@aol.com, JazzMnJoe@aol.com,
>> RKPBanjo@aol.com,Washboardbill@aol.com, bacjb@shadow.net,
>> jim@eastidaho.org,pcrumley@compuserve.com,
>> mikedurham_jazz@hotmail.com,trumpeter@lincolnco.net, itms@jimmartinez.com=
,
>> studebig6@a5.com,olefarms@muscanet.com, buel4@msn.com
>> >Subject: The Forgotten Bix?
>> >Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:01:44 -0500 (EST)
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> >Hi Jim:=20
>> > I copied the following off of Albert's site. Closer to home, neither ou=
r
>> local Times, Dispatch or Argus, mentioned Bix's birthday in their March 1=
0th
>> editions.=20
>> >Rich=20
>> >=20
>> >Shame On Sie=20
>> >by Albert Haim=20
>> >Out of curiosity I looked up the web editions of three prestigious
>> newspapers -New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune- for stories
>> about or a mention of Bix's 100th birthday. Nothing!! Did the paper editi=
ons
>> carry any item about Bix around March 10?
>> >Phil Schaap was right. Among all the jazz giants, Bix's centenary appear=
s to
>> be the one that has had the least amount of coverage. Not even a notice o=
f
>> Bix's 100th birthday in the three above-mentioned newspapers?
>> >=20
>> >Albert=20
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> >Posted on Mar 17, 2003, 7:41 AM
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> >=20
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<FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">Phil,<BR>
<BR>
That was one of the most craziest responses I have ever read. I really can&#=
8217;t tell what is tongue-in-cheek or not!! I happen to be an earnest admir=
er of Louis Armstrong and I disagree with your comment about why we admire h=
im. I only make this point because it’s the same reason why people sho=
uld admire Bix or any other musician: their complete body of accomplishments=
. It’s the same reason I admire Oscar Peterson, Mozart, or Willie Mays=
 for that matter.<BR>
<BR>
Anyhow, I read your comments with interest, so thanks for the smile. By the=20=
way, Shakey’s started here in Sacramento...but you probably knew that.=
<BR>
<BR>
Take care,<BR>
-- <BR>
Jim Martinez<BR>
http://www.jimmartinez.com<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
on 3/17/03 6:51 PM, Phil Pospychala at bixguy@hotmail.com wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">Are we surprised?  I think no=
t.  Isn't Davenport talking about a museum where Bix is only a part of=20=
the Quad Cities musical heritage?  Fear not!  We know Louis Armstr=
ong is an icon who never has to go through a neglected birthday.  Howev=
er, who among his earnest admirers really knows and loves the real reason fo=
r Armstrong's greatness; his work with King Oliver, Fletcher Henderson and h=
is Hot Fives and Sevens.  When one hears these, there is no question wh=
y Louis should always be an icon.  However,    the real=20=
world has him as an icon for other (lesser) reasons.   My point? &=
nbsp;Most real world people have no interest in what somebody played in the=20=
1920s.  It's Shakey's Pizza razzmatazz music to them and  backgrou=
nd music for silent films and cartoons.    Now that Fred Turn=
er has Clara Bow porking (No offense to Iowa, folks) Bix and getting him to=20=
climax, in his novel, 1929,  can cannonization from the real world be f=
ar behind?  I say we look forward to 3003 and note if there has been a=20=
shift in real world thinking.  Keep the faith!  Meanwhile, can we=20=
all take heart in knowing we have 65 and 70 year old fools trying to play a=20=
25 year old man's music and can we also keep our chins up when 65, 70 and 80=
 year old men lite candles at the moment of his birth?   Now, that=
's weird!  Take that, real world!  We don't give a shit what you t=
hink or what we think!  Happy St. Paddy's Day.<BR>
<BR>
>From: "rich johnson" <BR>
>Reply-To: bixnme@excite.com <BR>
>To: Hawkpshaw@aol.com, Edmetzsr@aol.com, jstgtrplayer@netscape.net,cgibb=
ons@davenportone.com, LeslieMRag@aol.com, donpub@charter.net,bixguy@hotmail.=
com, nvickers1@cox.net, Easywri571@aol.com <BR>
>CC: elbeba@aol.com, JazzMnJoe@aol.com, RKPBanjo@aol.com,Washboardbill@ao=
l.com, bacjb@shadow.net, jim@eastidaho.org,pcrumley@compuserve.com, mikedurh=
am_jazz@hotmail.com,trumpeter@lincolnco.net, itms@jimmartinez.com, studebig6=
@a5.com,olefarms@muscanet.com, buel4@msn.com <BR>
>Subject: The Forgotten Bix? <BR>
>Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:01:44 -0500 (EST) <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
>Hi Jim: <BR>
> I copied the following off of Albert's site. Closer to home, neither ou=
r local Times, Dispatch or Argus, mentioned Bix's birthday in their March 10=
th editions. <BR>
>Rich <BR>
> <BR>
>Shame On Sie <BR>
>by Albert Haim <BR>
>Out of curiosity I looked up the web editions of three prestigious newsp=
apers -New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune- for stories about o=
r a mention of Bix's 100th birthday. Nothing!! Did the paper editions carry=20=
any item about Bix around March 10? <BR>
>Phil Schaap was right. Among all the jazz giants, Bix's centenary appear=
s to be the one that has had the least amount of coverage. Not even a notice=
 of Bix's 100th birthday in the three above-mentioned newspapers? <BR>
> <BR>
>Albert <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
>Posted on Mar 17, 2003, 7:41 AM <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
>_______________________________________________ <BR>
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