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<B>Subject: </B>Fwd: Talk about identity theft!<BR>
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<B>Subject: </B>Fwd: Talk about identity theft!<BR>
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<B>Subject: </B>Talk about identity theft!<BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Arial">In a message dated 2/6/2003 10:54:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, daledevoe@worldnet.att.net writes:<BR>
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</FONT></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Arial">Just when you thought you'd heard everything.<BR>
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Today was my teaching day at one of the Philly Catholic high schools. I<BR>
teach all the brass instruments. There are 12 brass students altogether in<BR>
grades 9-12, of which 4 are beginners.<BR>
<BR>
Area bandleader Phil Giordano teaches drums, and has been there over 10<BR>
years. Last year, my first, the band director gig opened up, and Phil took<BR>
it over in October, but the administrators harassed him to the point that<BR>
during the summer he bailed out, and this year returned to teach drums again<BR>
one day a week. Before he bagged the director gig he orderred various<BR>
materials like Jamey Aebersolds and charts, some of which were actually<BR>
purchased and were added to a decent inventory of method books and music for<BR>
concert band, chorus, marching band, and some jazz band music.<BR>
<BR>
During the summer, the school hired a new band director right out of<BR>
college, who just a few years ago graduated from the high school - local boy<BR>
comes home.<BR>
<BR>
I have to have a very loose policy as to what goes on in the lessons for a<BR>
variety of reasons. Sometimes the kids bring their band music to the<BR>
lessons.<BR>
<BR>
Today one of the trumpet players showed up with 4 or 5 new jazz band parts.<BR>
I asked him what he was doing with those parts, because I had thought that<BR>
the jazz band had been canned for lack of interest in rehearsing before<BR>
school at 7:15 AM. He said that the school was having some kind of an<BR>
international dinner on Feb. 22 (about 2 weeks away), and that several<BR>
school groups, including the jazz band, would be playing for the guests.<BR>
<BR>
(One reason why Phil quit as band director is because the school was always<BR>
dropping these surprise after-school "gigs" on him and the band.)<BR>
<BR>
I looked at his parts, and right on top was the 4th trumpet part to Mike<BR>
Vax's chart on "I Remember Clifford". I said great, that I've known Mike<BR>
Vax a long time as I looked the chart over. Then I asked him who Clifford<BR>
was.<BR>
<BR>
He said that the band director had told him that Clifford was this big red<BR>
dog on a PBS TV kid's show, and that he (the director) was thinking about<BR>
showing a big screened image of the big red dog over the band while they<BR>
play the chart at the dinner, but he wasn't sure if he would do that or not.<BR>
<BR>
I told him that I never heard of the show or the dog, and that Clifford was<BR>
Clifford Brown, a great black jazz trumpet player who was killed in a car<BR>
accident at age 26 on the PA Turnpike in the mid-50's, not some dumb red<BR>
dog. I asked him if he had ever heard of Clifford Brown, and he no.<BR>
<BR>
I stopped for a minute. Then I said something like, "I'm trying to be<BR>
diplomatic about this..... Look, you're black. I'm white. You should be<BR>
telling me about Clifford Brown, instead of me telling you."<BR>
<BR>
I said that when I used to live in southern CA, I had a black girlfriend<BR>
that I almost got married to, and it was the same situation, that I would be<BR>
telling her about Miles and Trane and those people, and that she should be<BR>
telling me about them instead of the other way around.<BR>
<BR>
I told him a little more about Clifford (Brown), things like that he was<BR>
from Wilmington, DE, about 30 miles south of Philly. I told him that many of<BR>
the bebop musicians of that period were strung out on heroin and alcohol and<BR>
died young, and that Clifford was clean, that everybody liked him, and<BR>
admired him for not only being such a great young player, but also<BR>
demonstrating that you could play great without being strung out - and that<BR>
the jazz community was devastated when he died.<BR>
<BR>
I told him that if the Philly black jazz community found out about an image<BR>
of some red dog hanging over the band as they played the tune, they might<BR>
picket the place.<BR>
<BR>
The next student after him, another trumpet player, this one white, gave me<BR>
the same answer when I asked him if he knew who Clifford was, so I went<BR>
through the same explanation with him.<BR>
<BR>
When I got home today, I ran a search on Google on Clifford, and immediately<BR>
found the website for the show, which apparently runs nationwide, everyday,<BR>
several times a day on PBS, and what Clifford Red (not Brown) looks like.<BR>
<BR>
Talk about identity theft.<BR>
<BR>
Dale<BR>
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</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Arial"><BR>
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<B>From: </B>"Dale DeVoe" <daledevoe@worldnet.att.net><BR>
<B>Reply-To: </B>Kentonia@yahoogroups.com<BR>
<B>Date: </B>Thu, 06 Feb 2003 22:16:19 +0000<BR>
<B>To: </B>Kentonia@yahoogroups.com<BR>
<B>Subject: </B>[Kentonia] <no subject><BR>
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<TT>Just when you thought you'd heard everything.<BR>
<BR>
Today was my teaching day at one of the Philly Catholic high schools. I<BR>
teach all the brass instruments. There are 12 brass students altogether in<BR>
grades 9-12, of which 4 are beginners.<BR>
<BR>
Area bandleader Phil Giordano teaches drums, and has been there over 10<BR>
years. Last year, my first, the band director gig opened up, and Phil took<BR>
it over in October, but the administrators harassed him to the point that<BR>
during the summer he bailed out, and this year returned to teach drums again<BR>
one day a week. Before he bagged the director gig he orderred various<BR>
materials like Jamey Aebersolds and charts, some of which were actually<BR>
purchased and were added to a decent inventory of method books and music for<BR>
concert band, chorus, marching band, and some jazz band music.<BR>
<BR>
During the summer, the school hired a new band director right out of<BR>
college, who just a few years ago graduated from the high school - local boy<BR>
comes home.<BR>
<BR>
I have to have a very loose policy as to what goes on in the lessons for a<BR>
variety of reasons. Sometimes the kids bring their band music to the<BR>
lessons.<BR>
<BR>
Today one of the trumpet players showed up with 4 or 5 new jazz band parts.<BR>
I asked him what he was doing with those parts, because I had thought that<BR>
the jazz band had been canned for lack of interest in rehearsing before<BR>
school at 7:15 AM. He said that the school was having some kind of an<BR>
international dinner on Feb. 22 (about 2 weeks away), and that several<BR>
school groups, including the jazz band, would be playing for the guests.<BR>
<BR>
(One reason why Phil quit as band director is because the school was always<BR>
dropping these surprise after-school "gigs" on him and the band.)<BR>
<BR>
I looked at his parts, and right on top was the 4th trumpet part to Mike<BR>
Vax's chart on "I Remember Clifford". I said great, that I've known Mike<BR>
Vax a long time as I looked the chart over. Then I asked him who Clifford<BR>
was.<BR>
<BR>
He said that the band director had told him that Clifford was this big red<BR>
dog on a PBS TV kid's show, and that he (the director) was thinking about<BR>
showing a big screened image of the big red dog over the band while they<BR>
play the chart at the dinner, but he wasn't sure if he would do that or not.<BR>
<BR>
I told him that I never heard of the show or the dog, and that Clifford was<BR>
Clifford Brown, a great black jazz trumpet player who was killed in a car<BR>
accident at age 26 on the PA Turnpike in the mid-50's, not some dumb red<BR>
dog. I asked him if he had ever heard of Clifford Brown, and he no.<BR>
<BR>
I stopped for a minute. Then I said something like, "I'm trying to be<BR>
diplomatic about this..... Look, you're black. I'm white. You should be<BR>
telling me about Clifford Brown, instead of me telling you."<BR>
<BR>
I said that when I used to live in southern CA, I had a black girlfriend<BR>
that I almost got married to, and it was the same situation, that I would be<BR>
telling her about Miles and Trane and those people, and that she should be<BR>
telling me about them instead of the other way around.<BR>
<BR>
I told him a little more about Clifford (Brown), things like that he was<BR>
from Wilmington, DE, about 30 miles south of Philly. I told him that many of<BR>
the bebop musicians of that period were strung out on heroin and alcohol and<BR>
died young, and that Clifford was clean, that everybody liked him, and<BR>
admired him for not only being such a great young player, but also<BR>
demonstrating that you could play great without being strung out - and that<BR>
the jazz community was devastated when he died.<BR>
<BR>
I told him that if the Philly black jazz community found out about an image<BR>
of some red dog hanging over the band as they played the tune, they might<BR>
picket the place.<BR>
<BR>
The next student after him, another trumpet player, this one white, gave me<BR>
the same answer when I asked him if he knew who Clifford was, so I went<BR>
through the same explanation with him.<BR>
<BR>
When I got home today, I ran a search on Google on Clifford, and immediately<BR>
found the website for the show, which apparently runs nationwide, everyday,<BR>
several times a day on PBS, and what Clifford Red (not Brown) looks like.<BR>
<BR>
Talk about identity theft.<BR>
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Dale<BR>
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