[Dixielandjazz] Fwd: Correction: Craik, not Clark wrote IAJRC article

Ken Mathieson ken at kenmath.free-online.co.uk
Sun Jan 13 17:28:20 EST 2019


Hi Marek,

Thanks for the info. I do know a Roger Craik: he's an Edinburgh drummer, 
but I haven't heard of him playing for some time, so he may have retired 
from gigging.

I hope all's well with you,

Regards,

Ken

On 13/01/2019 09:36, Marek Boym wrote:
> Hello Ken,
> On the 11th Charlie sent a correction re. the Jazz in Scotland article 
> - "Craik, not Clark wrote the IARC article" (see below).
> With kind regards,
> Marek
>
>
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> From: *Charles Suhor* <csuhor at zebra.net <mailto:csuhor at zebra.net>>
> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 22:31
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] *Correction: Craik, not Clark *wrote IAJRC 
> article
> To: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com <mailto:marekboym at gmail.com>>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com 
> <mailto:dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>>
>
>
> Correction: Craik, not Clark wrote IAJRC article
>
> Sadly, IAJRC is disbanding, but I was pleased to get an issue if the 
> IAJRC Journal in  the the mail today and to learn that a final one 
> will be published this spring. The present one is dated Fall 2017. It 
> has a three page article titled "Swinging Scots: An Outline of Jazz in 
> Scotland" by Roger Clark. Those of you who get Syncopated Times know 
> that it also gives some coverage beyond jazz in the USA, thanks to the 
> vision and catholicity of its editor, Andy Senior, and fine writers 
> like Joe Bebco.
> Like many in this country, I followed the British trad movement in the 
> 40s and early 50s but mostly lost track of what's happening abroad, 
> other than hearings of particular artists and bands on YouTube. Too 
> much happening, even here, to "keep up" with. But I appreciate what I 
> hear from you-all, listmates.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> > On Jan 6, 2019, at 12:29 AM, Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au 
> <mailto:bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Joe Bebco <joe.syncopatedtimes at gmail.com 
> <mailto:joe.syncopatedtimes at gmail.com>> wrote (in part):
> >
> >> Younger people getting into the music usually start from the 
> beginning and devote their learning to the 20s-30s period, and I was no
> >> exception. Most straight jazz history that they will find relegates 
> the revivals to a sidebar (with the exception of British Trad for some
> >> reason.) The 40s revival section will start with Lu Watters and end 
> with Turk Murphy...
> >
> > Dear Joe,
> > That is how I started in Melbourne, Australlia. In 1945. Listening 
> to a schoolmate's father's Bob Crosby Bobcats' and Muggsy Spanier 78s 
> while he was at the war.
> > We attended the local town hall Friday night dances and heard our 
> first live jazz when the Graeme Bell Dixieland Jazz Band made a 
> special appearance.
> > We were hooked and followed them everywhere. The band was raising 
> funds at concerts and dances for its 1947 journey to Czechoslovakia, 
> France and Britain.
> > We discovered other Melbourne bands and enthusiasts, jazz on radio, 
> the Lu Watters band, JRM, early Louis, et al. Read and absorbed the 
> book 'Jazzmen"...
> >
> >> the 70 years following being not particularly studied by anyone 
> under 50 unless they grew up in a jazz club with parents involved. It 
> is hard to come by a lot of that information second hand.
> >
> > I was lucky and have been studying jazz continuously for those last 
> 70 years. Mainly Classic Jazz, the Blues and Swing as a record 
> collector, discographer and writer.
> >
> >> Given my role with The Syncopated Times, (as the youngest writer by 
> several decades at 39) I'm giving myself a crash course in the recent 
> history with the hope of connecting the younger players who I follow 
> to the reality that they are standing on the shoulders of people who 
> have been continually reviving jazz for three generations.
> >
> > I had a look at The Syncopated Times site which I did not know 
> about. It appears to be quite an adventurous undertaking.
> > Congratulations.
> >
> >> And that their playing style builds on them rather than growing 
> whole cloth from original sources. Many do know it, and lots of bands 
> have people of mixed ages, but many others want to distance themselves 
> from the "Dixieland" generation while not being all that distinguishable.
> >
> > And on the way miss some very exciting jazz music.
> >
> >> I know this is a very old conversation. My point is that there are 
> dozens of bands that I should be expected to know in case someone 
> mentions them, (as I learned with Soprano Summit) and I'm working on it.
> >
> > Keep up the good work, as it is your generation's task to keep our 
> music alive.
> >
> >> I know that Australia has an unusually strong traditional jazz 
> scene up to the present day, with bands of all ages. I get lots of 
> hits on the website from there and had intended to do a roundup of 
> recent albums at some point, or a band profile, but my to do list only 
> gets bigger and I'd rather find a local to submit a story. I'd love to 
> have a regular writer from the area.
> >
> > They are out there.
> >
> >> As far as history in general, I'd wager most Americans wouldn't 
> know Australia was involved in World War II, let alone jazz, but 
> that's our education system.
> >
> > Sad, but true.
> > Except for US troops who were ot here at the time.
> > Few Americans know that Darwin was literally demolished in February 
> 1942 the first, and largest, of more than 100 air raids on Australian 
> soil during 1942–43.
> > But, as 'they' say, don't mention the War.
> > <big grin.
> > Very kind regards,
> > Bill.
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