[Dixielandjazz] Si Tu Vois Ma Mere

Jean Marc Ternois jeanm.ternois at gmail.com
Wed Dec 19 04:14:33 EST 2018


Hi Marek,
for information, The "Watergate Seven plus One" goes on playing and Marcel
plays trumpet.
Marcel plays also in a band dedicated to the music of Sidney Bechet :
"Sidney Bechet Memories", with another french Bechet's veteran, Poumy
Arnaud on drums.
Jean-Marc.

Le mar. 18 déc. 2018 à 17:28, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Speaking of Marcel Bornstein - I was just listening to a Watergate 7+1
> CD.  When I heard it live, Christian Azzi was on piano...
> Cheers
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 14:14, Jean Marc Ternois <jeanm.ternois at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Jude,
>>
>> thank you for this new insight on Si tu vois ma mère ! My participation
>> in this group enriches my English vocabulary with good... and bad words and
>> I am very happy about that.
>>
>> Concerning Chris Barber, he’s a very great trombone, even though, with
>> age, playing trombone is increasingly difficult.
>>
>> I play occasionally with Marcel Bornstein, who played and recorded with
>> Sidney Bechet and André Réveliotty in the 1950s. He always plays just as
>> well and it is always a great pleasure for me.
>>
>> Music preserves ... when it does not destroy too quickly!
>>
>> Friendly
>>
>> Jean-Marc
>>
>> Le lun. 17 déc. 2018 à 12:50, Judy Eames <jude at judyeames.co.uk> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Jean Marc,
>>>
>>> We saw the Chris Barber band three days ago. They do an annual gig in a
>>> village hall on the Oxfordshire, Berkshire border. It's a privilege to hear
>>> a group of astoundingly good musicians in such an intimate session. I think
>>> the mare, mère confusion might have started as a joke;  Politically
>>> incorrect men used "mare" to describe women sometimes.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Jude
>>>
>>>
>>> www.judyeames.co.uk
>>>
>>> On 16/12/2018 23:11, Jean Marc Ternois wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Bert,
>>>
>>> Chris Barber made a big hit in France with Petite Fleur (Monty Sunshine)
>>> maybe more than the Bechet's version. His version of "Si tu vois ma mère"
>>> (Lonesome) was less successful.
>>> The Bechet's success in France was very great and this beyond the Jazz
>>> fans. There was a kind of love story between Sidney and the popular french
>>> public. Sidney wrote many tunes according the "french taste"  during his
>>> last years living in France.
>>>
>>> I'm a big fan of Chris Barber, he was (and still is) one of my models
>>> when I started on trombone in 1964 !   He is a very great trombone, I like
>>> his playing.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Jean Marc
>>>
>>> Le dim. 16 déc. 2018 à 22:11, Bert <mister_bertje at hotmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hello Jean Marc,
>>>>
>>>> Many thankt for your help with the French situation and your knowledge
>>>> of the song.
>>>> In my country (Netherlands) it was a little different.
>>>>
>>>> Bechet's other composition that had been a big hit through the
>>>> recording of Monty Sunshine with Chris Barber's Jazzband, was Petite Fleur,
>>>> and reached #1 for several months in Holland, the year 1959.
>>>> So the record company tried to duplicate this succes with a new
>>>> recording of Si Tu Vois Ma Mere by Monty Sunshine. The first version was
>>>> marred by a teriible out of tune guitar. Later there was a new version,
>>>> where Chris Barber answered the clarinet with trombone, in place of the
>>>> guitar.
>>>> One of those records reached the #8 position in the Dutch charts,
>>>> either 1960 or 1961.
>>>>
>>>> Bechet's version never was a hit in the Netherlands, due to the silly
>>>> fact, that Holland had no hitparade at all in the early 1950's!
>>>>
>>>> Very kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Bert Brandsma
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> "I didn't know the word of "Mare" and the misunderstanding with the
>>>> title "Si tu vois ma mère". It's very interesting ... and funny.
>>>>
>>>> For my part, what I can say is that the first time Sidney Bechet
>>>> recorded this tune was in 1952
>>>> This tune was a very big hit in France, many bands played it and nobody
>>>> was singing it.
>>>>
>>>> So, according to the big success encountered, the recording company (I
>>>> suppose) wanted someone to write lyrics (to make more money ?? :o)) ).
>>>>
>>>> Jean Broussolle was a singer who was a member of a vocal group
>>>> well-known in France at that time, named "Les compagnons de la chanson"
>>>> which made his debuts with Edith Piaf."
>>>>
>>>>
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