[Dixielandjazz] Si Tu Vois Ma Mere (off topic)

Tue Dec 18 17:30:45 EST 2018

Hi Ken,

Jean-Pierre Morel founded a new but smaller band called "Les chauds sept du
père Morel". (Another joke : "chauds" = "hot" and "sept" = "seven" = Hot
Seven ! in addition, "chauds sept" sound like "chaussettes" in french =
"socks" in english ! in fact it's a double joke !)
The members of this band come principally from "Les rois du fox trot".
You can hear the band on youtube :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zin1KZtRUvI

Meanwhile, "Les rois du fox trot" go on under the lead of Nicolas Montier,
with the same instrumental shape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2DH7cB7ih4

Jean-Marc

Le mar. 18 déc. 2018 à 20:21, Ken <knejtlaw at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi Jean Marc,
>
> When you brought up the connection of age and playing difficulties I
> thought of Jean-Pierre Morel.  I've noticed in the recent Les Rois Du Fox
> Trot videos that he hasn't been playing.  Because it's difficult to keep up
> with events on the continent from this side of the pond, I thought you
> might have some current insight.  I'm a particular fan of early 3 reed, 3
> brass dance band music.  The Kings of Fox Trot are among the very best!
>
> Ken
>
> Central Oregon
>
> Just in case there are some that haven't heard them:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JldsUZEXiK0
> On 12/18/2018 3:41 AM, Jean Marc Ternois wrote:
>
> Hello Jude,
>
> thank you for this new insight on Si tu vois ma mère ! My participation
> in this group enriches my English vocabulary with good... and bad words and
> I am very happy about that.
>
> Concerning Chris Barber, he’s a very great trombone, even though, with
> age, playing trombone is increasingly difficult.
>
> I play occasionally with Marcel Bornstein, who played and recorded with
> Sidney Bechet and André Réveliotty in the 1950s. He always plays just as
> well and it is always a great pleasure for me.
>
> Music preserves ... when it does not destroy too quickly!
>
> Friendly
>
> Jean-Marc
>
> Le lun. 17 déc. 2018 à 12:50, Judy Eames <jude at judyeames.co.uk> a écrit :
>
>> Hi Jean Marc,
>>
>> We saw the Chris Barber band three days ago. They do an annual gig in a
>> village hall on the Oxfordshire, Berkshire border. It's a privilege to hear
>> a group of astoundingly good musicians in such an intimate session. I think
>> the mare, mère confusion might have started as a joke;  Politically
>> incorrect men used "mare" to describe women sometimes.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jude
>>
>>
>> www.judyeames.co.uk
>>
>> On 16/12/2018 23:11, Jean Marc Ternois wrote:
>>
>> Hello Bert,
>>
>> Chris Barber made a big hit in France with Petite Fleur (Monty Sunshine)
>> maybe more than the Bechet's version. His version of "Si tu vois ma mère"
>> (Lonesome) was less successful.
>> The Bechet's success in France was very great and this beyond the Jazz
>> fans. There was a kind of love story between Sidney and the popular french
>> public. Sidney wrote many tunes according the "french taste"  during his
>> last years living in France.
>>
>> I'm a big fan of Chris Barber, he was (and still is) one of my models
>> when I started on trombone in 1964 !   He is a very great trombone, I like
>> his playing.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jean Marc
>>
>> Le dim. 16 déc. 2018 à 22:11, Bert <mister_bertje at hotmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hello Jean Marc,
>>>
>>> Many thankt for your help with the French situation and your knowledge
>>> of the song.
>>> In my country (Netherlands) it was a little different.
>>>
>>> Bechet's other composition that had been a big hit through the recording
>>> of Monty Sunshine with Chris Barber's Jazzband, was Petite Fleur, and
>>> reached #1 for several months in Holland, the year 1959.
>>> So the record company tried to duplicate this succes with a new
>>> recording of Si Tu Vois Ma Mere by Monty Sunshine. The first version was
>>> marred by a teriible out of tune guitar. Later there was a new version,
>>> where Chris Barber answered the clarinet with trombone, in place of the
>>> guitar.
>>> One of those records reached the #8 position in the Dutch charts, either
>>> 1960 or 1961.
>>>
>>> Bechet's version never was a hit in the Netherlands, due to the silly
>>> fact, that Holland had no hitparade at all in the early 1950's!
>>>
>>> Very kind regards,
>>>
>>> Bert Brandsma
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> "I didn't know the word of "Mare" and the misunderstanding with the
>>> title "Si tu vois ma mère". It's very interesting ... and funny.
>>>
>>> For my part, what I can say is that the first time Sidney Bechet
>>> recorded this tune was in 1952
>>> This tune was a very big hit in France, many bands played it and nobody
>>> was singing it.
>>>
>>> So, according to the big success encountered, the recording company (I
>>> suppose) wanted someone to write lyrics (to make more money ?? :o)) ).
>>>
>>> Jean Broussolle was a singer who was a member of a vocal group
>>> well-known in France at that time, named "Les compagnons de la chanson"
>>> which made his debuts with Edith Piaf."
>>>
>>>
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